Relative dielectric constant - More than one dielectric in a capacitor

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The discussion revolves around a parallel plate capacitor partially filled with two different dielectrics, mica and paraffin, and the challenge of determining the effective relative dielectric constant when multiple dielectrics are present.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore how to calculate the effective dielectric constant for a capacitor with two different materials, questioning the method for combining their effects. There are attempts to derive voltage drops across each dielectric and relate them to the overall capacitance.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into treating the two dielectrics as separate capacitors, either in series or parallel, and have shared equations related to voltage and capacitance. However, there remains some uncertainty regarding the correct approach for different configurations of dielectrics.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of combining dielectrics in capacitors and are considering how different configurations affect calculations. There is an acknowledgment of potential variations in the approach based on the arrangement of the materials.

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Homework Statement



A parallel plane capacitor with conducting plates area [tex]\Sigma[/tex]= 400cm2, distant d=5mm, is half filled of mica (k1=5) and half filled of paraffin (k2=2). Calculate:

a) C (Capacitance of the capacitor)

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I haven't got too many problems solving this exercise but i just don't know how to get to the correct result of k (relative dielectric constant) when there's more than one dielectric in a parallel plate capacitor.

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Calculate the voltage drop across the two dielectrics separately. Their sum will equal the voltage drop across the capacitor.
 
Ok, then:

V=(E*d)/k ; V1=(E*(d/2))/k1; V2=(E*(d/2))/k2;

V=V1+V2;

(E*d)/k=((E*d)*(k1+k2))/(2k1k2)

k=(2k1k2)/(k1+k2)

this should be correct thanks.

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Another question: if i would have had a capacitor like this:

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i can't find k like i did before 'cause k would be like (k1*k2)/k1+k2 while it should be like
(k1+k2)/2
 
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You can think of it as two capacitors in parallel.
 
ok, thanks i got it now, the sum of the capacitances of the two capacitors (cause they are in parallel) gives me the total capacitance.

So, in the first exercise I've asked you, the capacitors can be considered as connected in series?
 
Yes, effectively it's two capacitors in series.
 
vela said:
Yes, effectively it's two capacitors in series.

ok, thank you very much.
 

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