Relative peculiar velocity of MBR vs that of neutrino background

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between the peculiar velocity of the Microwave Background Radiation (CMB) and the neutrino background (CNB), particularly focusing on the isotropy of the CMB in relation to neutrino production during the early universe. The scope includes theoretical considerations and implications of cosmic background radiation.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the isotropy of the CMB in relation to the neutrino production era.
  • Another participant provides a brief overview of the CMB's origins, noting the decoupling of radiation from particles after the big bang, but expresses uncertainty about the role of neutrinos.
  • A participant asserts that the Earth has a significant peculiar velocity relative to the CMB and wonders if this velocity also applies to the neutrino production era.
  • It is proposed that theoretically, the CMB and CNB should define the same rest frame, implying that motion with respect to the CMB would also apply to the CNB, although practical detection of this relationship is currently limited.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing levels of understanding and interest regarding the connection between the CMB and CNB, with some uncertainty about the implications of peculiar velocities and the detection capabilities of neutrino detectors. No consensus is reached on the specifics of the relationship between these two cosmic backgrounds.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on how neutrinos relate to the CMB and the current technological constraints in detecting the CNB dipole.

Loren Booda
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To what degree is the microwave background radiation isotropic to its precursor, neutrino production?
 
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I looked at your link - I am not interested in chasing down the source of your assertion. In any case, the CMB results from the "Fact" that about 300,000 yrs after the big bang, the universe cooled down enough so that atoms formed from the protons, He4 nuclei, etc. combining with electrons. As a result the radiation, originating at the big bang, decoupled from the particles and flowed more or less freely. The radiation lost energy over time because of the universe expansion. Where neutrinos come into this picture I have no idea.
 
mathman,

Sorry, the link is actually part of my signature.

Our planet has a significant peculiar velocity relative to the Microwave Background Radiation (era of photon decoupling). I was wondering whether it could be theoretically determined if the same velocity applied to the overall production of neutrinos during the primordial production of protons (era of neutrino decoupling).
 
Loren Booda said:
Our planet has a significant peculiar velocity relative to the Microwave Background Radiation (era of photon decoupling). I was wondering whether it could be theoretically determined if the same velocity applied to the overall production of neutrinos during the primordial production of protons (era of neutrino decoupling).

In theory, the CMB and CNB should define the same rest frame, so any motion we have with respect to the CMB would also be had wrt the CNB. In practice, however, our neutrino detectors are not yet capable of detecting this dipole in the CNB.
 

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