Relative Velocity along a Straight Line problem

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The problem involves a helicopter descending and dropping a package, requiring the calculation of relative velocities between the package and the helicopter as well as the package and the ground. The context is rooted in kinematics and relative motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of relative velocity equations and kinematic equations to solve the problem. There is uncertainty about the correct equations to use and how to interpret the given information.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the need for additional kinematic equations and the importance of understanding the context of acceleration. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations related to the velocities involved.

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Participants are working with the assumption that the package falls freely and are considering the implications of the helicopter's descent on the relative velocities. There is mention of potential discrepancies in calculated values and the need for careful application of equations.

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1. Homework Statement

A helicopter 8.50 m above the ground and descending at 3.50 m/s drops a package from rest (relative to the helicopter). Just as it hits the ground, find a) the velocity of the package relative to the helicopter and b) the velocity of the helicopter relative to the package. The package falls freely.

2. Homework Equations : package: p , helicopter:h, ground:g
Vp/h = Vp/g + Vg/h (I think this equation might help, but I was unable to successfully solve the problem).

3. Answer: a) 9.9 m/s downward b) 9.9 m/s upward

Thank you! I greatly appreciate your help in solving this problem! :)
 
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I don't know what that equation means.

Are you familiar with "the kinematic equations"?
 
Yes I am, but I don't know what equation to apply to this problem to solve it. The equation I gave was listed in my textbook as a way to solve relative velocity problems:

velocity of the package relative to the helicopter = (velocity of the package relative to the ground) + (velocity of the ground relative to the helicopter)

Note: velocity of the ground refers to velocity of the earth
 
Ah, OK, now I know what your equation means. You will need it, but you will also need (at least) one more kinematical equation. Think about what variables in the equations you know and which ones you're trying to find. Also make sure that the equation that you use is applicable to the situation (e.g. if the acceleration is nonzero, then discard all equations that assume constant velocity).
 
Thank you so much! I will try my best to solve the problem and let you know what I come up with
 
My answer to part a)

Ok, I used the kinematical equation Vy^2 = Voy^2 + 2ay(y-yo) to find the velocity of the package relative to the ground and I got 12.9 m/s downward (or -12.9m/s). I plugged this value into my equation as Vp/g. I know that the velocity of the helicopter relative to the ground (Vh/g) is 3.50m/s downward (or -3.50 m/s). So Vg/h, which equals -Vh/g, is +3.50 m/s. I then solved for Vp/h, and got 9.4 m/s downward...not quite 9.9m/s...did I solve the problem correctly?
 
Looks OK. I didn't check the numbers.
 

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