Relative Velocity, Rigid Body Kinematics

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem in rigid body kinematics, specifically focusing on relative velocity and angular motion. The original poster attempts to calculate the absolute velocity of a point on a rotating disk, using given angular velocity and acceleration values, along with relative velocity components.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between angular and linear velocities, questioning the assumptions made regarding the motion of the disk and the sphere. There are discussions about the correct application of vector cross products and the interpretation of relative velocity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on clarifying the definitions of absolute and relative velocities, while others have raised questions about potential errors in trigonometric calculations. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the relationship between angular and linear quantities, as well as the correct application of trigonometric functions in the context of the problem. The original poster has expressed uncertainty about their calculations, and specific values from the problem statement are being referenced for clarity.

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Homework Statement



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W(oa) = -5k
α(oa) = 3k
B = 30 deg
B(dot) = -2cos 30i + 2sin30j = Vrel
b(double dot) = 4cos30i - 4sin30j)

Homework Equations


Va = Woa x Rao + Vrel


The Attempt at a Solution



This is such a simple problem and I don't know why I am messing it up. I am just trying to figure out the Va part right now. I know the answer from the back is 4.38i + 7.58j

I did Va = W(oa) x R(ao) + Vrel solving for Va.
Va = -5k x 1.25(-cos30i + sin30j) + (-2cos 30i + 2sin30j)
Va = 3.125i + 5.4j - 1.73i - 1j

Va = 1.395i - 4.4j

This is what I am getting for Va but the answer is wrong. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
 
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Please you explain your reasoning at each step?

So - by "absolute velocity" the mean the linear velocity.
What does the rotation of the disk have to do with the motion of the sphere? Are the beta figures supposed to be wrt the rotating frome of the disk?

In your equations you appear to be making angular velocity and angular acceleration equal to linear velocity and acceleration. What is the relationship between angular velocity and tangential velocity?

Note: sin(30°)=1/2, cos(30°)=(√3)/2
 
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yes by absolute velocity i mean linear velocity.

well I know that if point A was fixed, than Va = Woa x Rao. But since it is moving, Va = Woa x Rao + Vrel. I assume that Vrel is tangent to point A in the direction: 1.255i + 2.18j. and yes angular velocity is clockwise.
 
Please answer all the questions.

Did you mix up the sin and cos?
Consider, an object on a circular path 5" from the center, angular velocity 3rad/s clockwise, has a tangential velocity 15in/s right? When the angle is position 30deg anticlockwise from the horizontal, the velocity vector makes an angle of 60 degrees clockwise from the horizontal. sin(60)=cos(30).
(draw the pic)

hence: v= [-15sin(30)i+15cos(30)j]in/s = [-(7.5)i+(7.5√3)j]in/s
note: always include the units and you don't have to expand the √3 as 1.7321 until the very end.
 
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