Relative Velocity with plane and wind

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The problem involves analyzing the relative velocity of an aircraft flying in different directions while affected by wind. The aircraft travels due east and then returns due west, with the wind coming from the southwest. The goal is to show a relationship between the aircraft's speeds and the wind speed using vector resolution.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss vector resolution and the components of velocity in different directions. There are attempts to derive relationships between the aircraft's speeds and the wind speed, with some questioning the correctness of their calculations and assumptions about vector directions.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring different methods of vector addition and subtraction, including geometric representations. There is an acknowledgment of a mistake by one participant, while others suggest alternative approaches to visualize the problem. The discussion is ongoing with no explicit consensus reached.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is a focus on ensuring that the assumptions about the vectors and their components are correctly understood.

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Homework Statement


An aircraft flew due east fro P to Q at u1 km/h.Wind speed from south west was v km/h.On the return journey from Q to P,due west, the aircraft's speed was u2 km/h, the wind velocity being unchanged.If the speed of the aircraft in still air was x km/h, x>v,show by resolving the perpendicular to PQ.or otherwise,that
u1 - u2 = v√2


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3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b/

Can somebody help me with this?I think I made a simple mistake.

vpw = (xcosa)i - (xsina)j

vw = (v√2/2)i + (v√2/2)j

vp = (xcosa + v√2/2)i +(xsina + v√2/2)

since the j component must be zero sina = 2v/2x .... cosa =√(4x^2 -2v^2)/2x

vp =x√(4x^2 -2v^2)/2x + v√2/2 = (v√2 + √(4x^2 -2v^2))/2 = u1


return journey

since the plane is traveling in the opposite direction

vpw = (-xcosa)i - (xsina)j

vp = (-xcosa + v√2/2)i +(-xsina + v√2/2)j

since j is zero cosa =√(4x^2-2v^2)/2x

u2=vp= (v√2 - √4x^2 -2v^2)/2 i

u1 - u2 = (√(4x^2 - 2v^2) +√(2v^2))/2 - (√(4x^2 -2v^2) - √(2v^2))/2

If I simplify it doesn't work out.Should I have multiplied u2 by minus 1 since its going in the minus i direction?
 
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Probably the easiest way to check your working is to draw out the vector triangles and do the geometry.
 
Sorry I am not exactly sure what you mean.I get the correct answer if I use the vector as opposed to the magnitude of the vector.
 
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The solution involves adding and subtracting vectors - there are two main ways of doing this. You have been resolving each vector into components N-S and E-W.
Have you tried sketching the vectors out using head-to-tail?
 
I just figured where I went wrong thanks anyway.
 

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