Relativistic Momentum of photon

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The discussion revolves around the relativistic momentum of a proton being accelerated to a speed of 0.999c. Participants are exploring the relationship between energy, momentum, and mass in the context of special relativity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of momentum in different units, specifically GeV and GeV/c. There is an exploration of relevant equations, including the relationship between energy and momentum.

Discussion Status

Some participants have attempted calculations using the equations for relativistic momentum and energy, while others are questioning the correctness of their results. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of units and the implications of relativistic equations.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of confusion regarding the units of energy and mass, particularly in terms of eV and MeV/c², which may affect the calculations being performed.

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Homework Statement


How much work is required to accelerate a proton from rest up to a speed of 0.999c?
What would be the momentum of this proton?

Homework Equations


p=γmv

The Attempt at a Solution


I got part A, which was the momentum. I found that to be 20.1 GeV. Now for part B I have to find the momentum in units of GeV/c. I'm down to my last attempt on Mastering Physics. First, I tried going the simplest route and divided the 20.1 GeV from part A by c to get 6.7e-8 and that was wrong. I also tried using p=γmv to find an answer of 1.12e-5 J, which I converted to 7.01e-8 GeV, then divided that by c and got an incorrect figure of 2.34e-16.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Blue Kangaroo said:

Homework Statement


How much work is required to accelerate a proton from rest up to a speed of 0.999c?
What would be the momentum of this proton?

Homework Equations


p=γmv

The Attempt at a Solution


I got part A, which was the momentum. I found that to be 20.1 GeV. Now for part B I have to find the momentum in units of GeV/c. I'm down to my last attempt on Mastering Physics. First, I tried going the simplest route and divided the 20.1 GeV from part A by c to get 6.7e-8 and that was wrong. I also tried using p=γmv to find an answer of 1.12e-5 J, which I converted to 7.01e-8 GeV, then divided that by c and got an incorrect figure of 2.34e-16.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Can you find a formula that relates the energy to the momentum of a particle?
 
Would that be E^2=p^2c^2 + m^2c^4? If that is the correct equation, I came up with an answer of 1.35e-6.
 
Blue Kangaroo said:
Would that be E^2=p^2c^2 + m^2c^4? If that is the correct equation, I came up with an answer of 1.35e-6.

You could use that one. But, what about using ##E = \gamma mc^2## and ##p = \gamma mv##?
 
Honestly, I'm not quite sure what I would do with those equations. I saw that a guy on Yahoo Answers did K/c=mvγ and that led me to an answer of 7.01e-8. I'm not confident that that is right though. Any idea if my answer of 1.35e-6 from my previous post is right?
 
Blue Kangaroo said:
Honestly, I'm not quite sure what I would do with those equations. I saw that a guy on Yahoo Answers did K/c=mvγ and that led me to an answer of 7.01e-8. I'm not confident that that is right though. Any idea if my answer of 1.35e-6 from my previous post is right?

I think your problem is probably understanding ##eV## units. The mass of a particle is normally given in ##MeV/c^2##. For example, the proton mass is about ##938 MeV/c^2##.

The energy of a particle is, therefore, ##E = \gamma m## where ##E## is in ##MeV## and ##m## is the mass in ##MeV/c^2##.

Momentum is given in units of ##MeV/c## and we have ##p = \gamma mv/c## in these units.

In this case ##v/c = 0.999 \approx 1## so we have ##p \approx \gamma m = E##.

These units take a bit of time and practice to get used to, but you can see how using them can simplify the calculations.
 
Yes, thank you it makes sense now.
 

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