Relativistic quantum field theory:antiparticles

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the emergence of antiparticles in relativistic quantum field theory (QFT), particularly focusing on the implications of special relativity (SR) and the Dirac equation. Participants explore the historical context, mathematical interpretations, and conceptual challenges associated with these topics.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that early quantum field theories did not comply with special relativity, leading Dirac to develop a new equation that predicted the existence of antiparticles.
  • There is a suggestion that the emergence of more particles in QFT consistent with SR may be linked to the mathematical structure of the Dirac equation, which has solutions that imply negative energy states.
  • One participant expresses difficulty in interpreting the mathematical aspects of the Dirac equation and seeks clarification on its implications for particle physics.
  • Another participant argues that SR is not merely a geometric constraint but a fundamental aspect of the four-dimensional Minkowski space, which influences the behavior of particles.
  • Some participants discuss the analogy between the Dirac Sea and concepts in semiconductor theory, noting differences in how "holes" and antiparticles are understood.
  • There is a contention regarding whether the emergence of antiparticles is fundamentally tied to relativity or if it can be explained through non-relativistic QFT frameworks.
  • A later reply proposes that the Dirac equation can be understood as resulting from taking roots of operators, suggesting a deeper mathematical relationship that might explain the existence of antiparticles.
  • Several participants challenge each other's interpretations of the mathematical derivations and the implications for understanding particle physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between special relativity and the emergence of antiparticles, with some asserting a direct connection while others argue for alternative explanations. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing interpretations present.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding of advanced mathematics and the complexities involved in interpreting the Dirac equation and its implications for particle physics. There is also mention of varying historical perspectives on the development of these theories.

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This discussion may be of interest to students and enthusiasts of quantum field theory, those exploring the foundations of particle physics, and individuals seeking to understand the interplay between mathematics and physical interpretations in theoretical physics.

  • #31
malawi_glenn said:
So the situation to go from KG to Dirac is more
subtle than "just taking the square root of KG" ;-)
Indeed. It's better to do the Wignerian thing and think in terms of unirreps
of the Poincare group. \Box^2 is just a representation for wave functions
of the Poincare casimir P^2 (4-momentum squared). But one should
also think about J^2 (total angular momentum squared), which often
is not introduced in basic RQM textbooks until much later.

(BTW, (-\Delta +m^2)^{1/2} is only a Foldy-Wouthuysen
transformation away from the usual Dirac operator anyway, so the
usual objections about nonlocality are perhaps less convincing than
they appear.)
 
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  • #32
ephemereal nature of life

Avodyne said:
But in quantum mechanics, all paths make a contribution to the probability amplitude, [including space-like paths ... and for consistency we must interpret backward-in-time paths as antiparticles]
This explanation (for relativity implying creation and annihilation) seems much more fundamental (than the happen-stance that negative energies are not disallowed by Dirac, Klein & Gordon's attempts at writing relativistic wave equations). Is it really true that space-like paths must contribute (and is there a heuristic explanation why space-like paths shouldn't just be ignored from the outset)?

Also, is there an analogous explanation regarding phonons and a speed of sound?
 
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  • #33
Avodyne said:
(Again, this only happens for non-classical, faster-than-light paths). But, if the particle carries a charge (say +1), then to the first observer, the charge decreases at x1 when the particle leaves, but to the second observer, it looks like the charge increases at x1 when the particle arrives. This is inconsistent, so it must be that the second observer sees a particle arriving with charge -1. Obviously this can only happen if such a particle exists, and so there must be antiparticles.

If an observer observes a particle in one frame, then a boosted frame should also observe a particle, and not an antiparticle, so this shouldn't be taken literarly.

It is true that mathematically, an antiparticle behaves as a negative energy particle moving backwards in time, but that's really confusing to think about physically.
 
  • #34
malawi_glenn said:
If one wants to write E = (p^2 + m^2)^{1/2} in operator form:
(-\Delta +m^2)^{1/2}\phi = \partial_t \phi
This is NONLOCAL! That's why one sticks with:
\partial _\mu \partial ^\mu \phi = -m^2\phi

I was tought that if you expand the square root in E = (p^2 + m^2)^{1/2} and rewrite the operators in position space, then we have one time differentiation on the left but a polynomial of space differentiations on the right hence this equation cannot be Lorentz covariant.
 

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