Removing Rats from a small Atoll also got rid of Mosquitos

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The discussion revolves around the ecological impact of removing introduced rats from Palmyra Atoll and its unintended consequence of also eliminating the mosquito population. Participants explore the relationship between mammals and mosquito breeding, as well as the historical context of rat introduction and extermination.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the removal of rats deprived mosquitoes of blood meals necessary for reproduction, leading to their extinction on the atoll.
  • One participant questions how sufficient mammal populations exist to support mosquitoes, noting that many woodland mammals have thick fur and expressing curiosity about the sources of blood for mosquitoes in areas without deer.
  • Another participant clarifies that the only remaining mammals on the atoll are human researchers and mentions that rats provided breeding sites for mosquito larvae by chewing open coconut shells.
  • Further contributions highlight that mosquitoes also feed on birds, which may not be as noticeable to humans.
  • Some participants express confusion over the phrasing of the initial post regarding the introduction of rats, suggesting it may be a typographical error.
  • A later reply provides historical context, explaining that rats were introduced during World War II and subsequently exterminated due to their negative impact on native bird populations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the ecological dynamics between mammals and mosquitoes, with some confusion about the initial statements. There is no consensus on the broader implications of these interactions or the sufficiency of mammal populations to support mosquito breeding.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the ecological relationships and the specific conditions on the atoll remain unresolved, particularly regarding the sources of blood for mosquitoes in different environments.

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Introduced rats from exterminated on Palmyra Atoll.
This seems to have deprived the mosquitos of blood meals the females need to produce eggs and they went extinct also.
Article here. Popular article here.
This probably would not work where other mammals are present.
 
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I've always been curious how there there enough mammals to support mosquito populations. Most woodland mammals have thick fur. Deer I suppose are a primary target, but there aren't any in my backyard and some summer months there are swarms of mosquitoes. So where is the blood coming from?
 
Apparently on this atoll, the only other mammals are the human researchers now.
The rats also provided places for the eggs/larvae, chewed open coconut shells.

In the woods there are also mice, squirrels opossums, raccoons, etc.
Some mosquitoes go after birds rather then humans, of course you tend to not notice them so much.
 
BillTre said:
In the woods there are also mice, squirrels opossums, raccoons, etc.
Some mosquitoes go after birds rather then humans, of course you tend to not notice them so much.
I guess I'm just impressed they can get through fur and feathers. Sure makes us humans look like fast food! :biggrin:
 
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Is this some kind of "autocorrect" mess up ?
BillTre said:
Introduced rats from exterminated on Palmyra Atoll.
I can't read that in any way that makes sense... . o_O
 
OCR said:
Is this some kind of "autocorrect" mess up ?

I can't read that in any way that makes sense... . o_O
No just a kind of typical mess:

The rats were introduced (not on purpose) in WW2 when the military made airbases were made there.
The rats were killing native birds etc.
Conservation people killed the rats off recently.
 
BillTre said:
No just a kind of typical mess:
:ok: ...
 

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