Renormalisation group in statistical mechanics

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The discussion centers around the concept of renormalization group (RG) in statistical mechanics, particularly its application near critical points. Participants explore the foundational ideas of RG, including coarse graining and the significance of fixed points, while seeking clarification on the broader implications of these concepts beyond critical points.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines their understanding of RG, emphasizing the process of defining a microscopic system, coarse graining, and the implications of self-similarity near critical points.
  • Another participant echoes similar steps in their understanding, noting the importance of fixed points at the critical point and suggesting that these fixed points relate to critical phenomena.
  • A reference to Wen's work is provided, indicating that fixed points correspond to phase transitions or describe long-distance behavior of a phase.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the meaning of recursion relations obtained from RG transformations away from the critical point, questioning the general applicability of the procedure outlined.
  • One participant acknowledges a missed detail regarding rescaling in their understanding of the process, suggesting that the existence of fixed points may represent a special case.

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Participants generally share similar foundational understandings of RG but express uncertainty and seek clarification on its implications beyond critical points. There is no consensus on the broader applicability of the recursion relations outside critical regions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in their understanding, particularly regarding the significance of fixed points and recursion relations away from critical points, indicating a need for further exploration of these concepts.

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I am currently trying to get my head round RG in the context of statistical mechanics and am not succeeding! I would be grateful for any help. I have a specific question, but any clarification of RG in general would be useful. Here is my understanding of the main ideas:

1. Define microscopic system with some Hamiltonian H.
2. Coarse grain this system in some (arbitrary) fashion, which gives rise to a system with a new H in terms of the coarse grained variables.
3. Now we use some input from experiment: near the critical point the system appears to be self similar at all scales, so we impose the requirement that H is of the same form in the new system so that the coarse grained system behaves as it should; the new H has some different set of constants in general given by a transformation.
4. We can then go on to find critical exponents and the critical coupling.

The problem comes when I read or hear statements such as in Leo Kadanoff's book where he says that "each phase of the system can be described by a special set of couplings, K*, which are invariant under the RG transform". The procedure outlined above (if I've got it right!) only applies around the critical point from step 3 onwards, as elsewhere the system certainly doesn't look the same on all scales. Why does the recursion relation we previously obtained have any meaning away from the critical point?

Thanks in advance!
 
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I understand it something like this:
(i) Start from a microscopic Hamiltonian
(ii) Coarse grain and rescale
(iii) At the critical point, there should be self similarity, ie. there will be a fixed point of step (ii).
(iv) Search for fixed points of step (ii).
(v) If a fixed point of step (ii) is related to critical phenomena, it should have some properties eg. existing only for T=Tc.
 
atyy said:
I understand it something like this:
(i) Start from a microscopic Hamiltonian
(ii) Coarse grain and rescale
(iii) At the critical point, there should be self similarity, ie. there will be a fixed point of step (ii).
(iv) Search for fixed points of step (ii).
(v) If a fixed point of step (ii) is related to critical phenomena, it should have some properties eg. existing only for T=Tc.

Right, I forgot the rescaling but was nearly there! It seems to me though that having the same Hamiltonian or close enough so that we can find fixed points corresponds to a rather special situation.

I'll take a look at that book though, hopefully that will clear things up.

Thanks for your help!
 

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