Representation Theory and Particle Theory

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The discussion centers on the relationship between representation theory and quantum mechanics/quantum field theory, exploring how concepts from representation theory apply to particle physics. Participants seek to understand foundational aspects and resources related to this connection.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the connection between angular momentum in quantum mechanics and the Lie algebra SO(3), suggesting that irreducible representations correspond with elementary particles and that the Casimir element can measure scalar quantities like mass.
  • Another participant references their manuscript on quantum field theory as a resource for understanding these concepts.
  • Several participants recommend the second chapter of Weinberg's "Quantum Theory of Fields" for its construction of particle states from irreducible representations of the Lorentz Group.
  • One participant mentions that Ballentine discusses irreducible representations in quantum mechanics, albeit without using that specific term.
  • Another participant expresses a desire to learn the mathematical foundations of representation theory, specifically seeking introductory materials accessible to someone with a standard undergraduate abstract algebra background.
  • A participant questions how another could grasp the role of Lie groups in quantum mechanics without knowing the underlying mathematics of group and representation theory.
  • One participant suggests that many group theory books introduce representation theory before discussing Lie groups, providing a link to a specific book as an example.

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Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the mathematical aspects of representation theory and its application to quantum mechanics. There is no consensus on a single resource or approach, and multiple perspectives on the relationship between these fields are presented.

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Some participants express uncertainty about their understanding of the mathematical foundations necessary for grasping the concepts discussed, indicating a potential gap in knowledge or resources available for self-study.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in the intersection of mathematics and physics, particularly those looking to understand representation theory in the context of quantum mechanics and quantum field theory.

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I am familiar with the representation theory of finite groups and Lie groups/algebra from the mathematical perspective, and I am wondering how quantum mechanics/quantum field theory uses concepts from representation theory. I have seen the theory of angular momentum in quantum mechanics, and I realized that Lx, Ly, and Lz, the components of angular momentum, are elements of the Lie algebra SO(3). I also heard of the notion that irreducible representations correspond with elementary particles and that the Casimir element can measure scalar quantities such as mass. Unfortunately, my knowledge in this area is merely a bunch of scattered facts. Could anyone explain the foundations of the relationship between representation theory and quantum physics, or provide a resource (book or website) that explains this connection? Thanks.
 
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I would recommend the second chapter of Weinberg's Quantum theory of Fields, he does construct the particle states from the irreducible representations of the Lorentz Group.
 
The best place I know to read about particles and irreducible representations is chapter 2 of Weinberg's QFT book. I'm not saying that it's great, only that it's not bad for a physics book, and that I don't know a better place. Link

Edit: D'oh. Too slow again.
 
Yep, burned ;)
 
Ballentine has some discussion of irreducible representations (although he doesn't use that term) and their role in QM.

BTW, I have the opposite problem. I have a general idea about the role of Lie groups in QM, but I'd like to learn some math: representation of finite groups, semisimplicity, irreps, and then once I've mastered that stuff Lie groups and Lie algebras. Does anyone know of a good intro to that kind of material, something accessible to me having only taken a standard undergrad abstract algebra course?
 
lugita15 said:
Ballentine has some discussion of irreducible representations (although he doesn't use that term) and their role in QM.

BTW, I have the opposite problem. I have a general idea about the role of Lie groups in QM, but I'd like to learn some math: representation of finite groups, semisimplicity, irreps, and then once I've mastered that stuff Lie groups and Lie algebras. Does anyone know of a good intro to that kind of material, something accessible to me having only taken a standard undergrad abstract algebra course?

That's pretty interesting...how did you manage to understand its role within - and connection to - QM if you didn't know the mathematics of group & representation theory ? I am trying to self-study this area at the moment ( I'm not a scientist by trade ), but am finding it hard going.
 
lugita15 said:
Ballentine has some discussion of irreducible representations (although he doesn't use that term) and their role in QM.

BTW, I have the opposite problem. I have a general idea about the role of Lie groups in QM, but I'd like to learn some math: representation of finite groups, semisimplicity, irreps, and then once I've mastered that stuff Lie groups and Lie algebras. Does anyone know of a good intro to that kind of material, something accessible to me having only taken a standard undergrad abstract algebra course?

Shouldn't be hard to find what you are looking for, a lot of group theory books start by introducing the representation theory and its concepts before going to the special case of Lie Groups, one example:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0387788654/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 

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