Resistor & power dissipated question-

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The problem involves determining the value of a load resistor R in relation to a battery's EMF E and internal resistance r, such that the power dissipated by the resistor is maximized. The context is within electrical circuits, specifically focusing on power dissipation in resistors.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using Kirchhoff's Loop Law to derive relationships between current, voltage, and resistance. There is a focus on understanding why a specific value of R corresponds to maximum power dissipation, with some participants exploring limits of R approaching zero and infinity. Others suggest calculating power using different formulas such as P = IV, P = V^2/R, and P = I^2R.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confusion about the necessity of a maximum value for the resistor and how to derive it. Others indicate they have reached an understanding of the problem and the relationships involved, particularly through the use of power equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may involve assumptions about ideal conditions in circuit analysis, and there may be constraints related to the definitions of power and resistance in the context of the given circuit.

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Resistor & power dissipated question--please help

Homework Statement


Load resistor R is attached to a battery with EMF E and internal resistance r. For what value of the resistance R in terms of E and r will the power dissipated by the load resistor be a maximum?


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


So, first utilizing Kirchoff's Loop Law:

E-Ir-IR = 0
E - I(r+R) = 0
I(r+R) = E
r + R = E/I
R= E/I - r

the answer is r, but I'm not understanding why the resistor has to have a maximum value, or how to get r.
 
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bcjochim07 said:

Homework Statement


Load resistor R is attached to a battery with EMF E and internal resistance r. For what value of the resistance R in terms of E and r will the power dissipated by the load resistor be a maximum?


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


So, first utilizing Kirchoff's Loop Law:

E-Ir-IR = 0
E - I(r+R) = 0
I(r+R) = E
r + R = E/I
R= E/I - r

the answer is r, but I'm not understanding why the resistor has to have a maximum value, or how to get r.

To see why there is a specific R value that corresponds to a maximum value, you can just think of the limits: if R=0, then the resistor R dissipates no power at all (because I2R=0). If R goes to infinity, the power dissipated again goes to zero, because the very large R causes the current to go to zero, so again I2R goes to zero.

So for very large and very small R values, the power goes to zero, so the maximum power corresponds to some intermediate resistance.


To actually calculate it, write an expression for the power dissipated by R. You can then take the derivative and set it equal to zero to find the maximum.
 


Ok, I just got it. I tried first substituting into P = IV and then P=V^2/R, and finally
P=I^2R worked for me to get R=r.
 


bcjochim07 said:
Ok, I just got it. I tried first substituting into P = IV and then P=V^2/R, and finally
P=I^2R worked for me to get R=r.

Right, I2R is the easiest way (I think) to get it.

You can get it with the others, but for V you have to use the potential difference across just the resistor R. For example:

[tex] I V = \left(\frac{E}{R+r}\right)\ \left( E \frac{R}{R+r}\right)[/tex]
which of course ends up the same as I2R which you used.
 

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