Resistors in Series with a lightbulb

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The problem involves a lightbulb rated at "75W at 120V" connected through an extension cord with resistive conductors. Participants are tasked with determining the actual power consumed by the bulb when accounting for the resistance of the extension cord.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the bulb's resistance and the total resistance in the circuit, questioning the application of power equations. Some express confusion about the difference between total power and power dissipated by the bulb alone.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the importance of understanding voltage drops across components and the implications of series resistance. There is ongoing exploration of how to correctly apply power equations in this context, with no explicit consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of series circuits and the impact of additional resistances on the power calculations. The discussion reflects a need for clarity on voltage drops and their effect on power dissipation in the lightbulb.

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Homework Statement


A lightbulb marked "75W at 120V" is at one end of a long extension cord in which each of the two conductors has a resistance of 0.800Ω. The other end of the extension cord is plugged into a 120V outlet. Find the actual power of the bulb.


Homework Equations


P = V^2/ R
V = IR
P = I^2R

The Attempt at a Solution


The answer according to the book is 73.8W

I found the Resistance of the bulb to be 192Ω
by doing R = V^2/P R = 120^2/75 = 192Ω
Then I added on the TWO extra resistors .8 x 2 = 1.6Ω
The total resistance therefore becomes 193.6Ω
I used that along with the 120V to find the P.
120^2/193.6 = 74.4W ..

What am I doing wrong please?
 
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sakebu said:

Homework Statement


A lightbulb marked "75W at 120V" is at one end of a long extension cord in which each of the two conductors has a resistance of 0.800Ω. The other end of the extension cord is plugged into a 120V outlet. Find the actual power of the bulb.


Homework Equations


P = V^2/ R
V = IR
P = I^2R

The Attempt at a Solution


The answer according to the book is 73.8W

I found the Resistance of the bulb to be 192Ω
by doing R = V^2/P R = 120^2/75 = 192Ω
Then I added on the TWO extra resistors .8 x 2 = 1.6Ω
The total resistance therefore becomes 193.6Ω
I used that along with the 120V to find the P.
120^2/193.6 = 74.4W ..

What am I doing wrong please?
The power you calculated is the total power dissipated by the two wires and the bulb. The question asks for the power dissipated by the bulb alone. Do you know where to go from here?
 
I don't really understand the difference..
 
sakebu said:
I don't really understand the difference..

Just stick to the theory. P = IV where I is the current through the component and V is the voltage across it. What is the current through the light source? What is the voltage across it? It is never a good idea to memorize the set of power equations. They all come from P = IV, and you can always arrive to them yourself using a bit of thought and algebra. If you rely on these equations without understanding the theory well enough, you can (as you have done) mistakenly apply one of the equations improperly.

It's like how when I took physics AP, my teacher never even taught that silly kinematics equation v^2 = v_0^2 +2a(x-x_0). That too is derived from the other, more basic equations, a(t), v(t), and x(t).
 
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sakebu said:
I don't really understand the difference..

That formula you quote P = V2/R - like Ohms law for that matter, have the symbol V in it.

That V stands for the Voltage Drop across the component you are dealing with.

Your circuit has 3 resistors in Series.

0.8, 192 and 0.8

The wire going TO the lamp, the lamp itself and the wire coming FROM the lamp.

The Voltage Drop across that group is 120V, but not all of it drops over the 192Ω lamp; it will be just a little bit less [use voltage divider theory] which will give you that slightly smaller Power.
 

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