Resonance states and complex energies

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The discussion revolves around the concept of resonance states in quantum mechanics (QM) and quantum field theory (QFT), particularly focusing on the nature of complex energy poles in scattering amplitudes and their relation to the eigenvalues of the Hamiltonian. Participants explore the implications of these concepts and the mathematical foundations underlying them.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the complex energy of resonance in QM is an eigenvalue of the Hamiltonian, referencing the property of Hermitian operators having real eigenvalues.
  • Another participant asserts that the complex energy poles are not eigenvalues of the Hamiltonian.
  • A different participant suggests that resonance energy might be related to the sum of the Hamiltonian and a "centrifugal potential," raising further questions about the implications for eigenvalues.
  • Concerns are raised about the adequacy of Sakurai's book for understanding resonance scattering, with a suggestion that Merzbacher's text may provide better insights.
  • There is a mention of the resonance energy being derived from a local Taylor expansion of cot(delta_l), highlighting the assumption of resonance existence in that context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the complex energy of resonance in QM is an eigenvalue of the Hamiltonian, and multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation and implications of resonance states.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes unresolved questions about the mathematical treatment of resonance energies and the assumptions underlying the derivations presented in various texts.

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I'm reconsidering the problem of resonance states.
We know that the resonances in QM are described as the complex energy poles in the scattering amplitude. In the version of QFT, the resonances are described by the complex mass poles of the scattering matrix.
In QFT, I can understand that the masses of intermediate particles develops imaginary masses from loop corrections.
But in the case of QM, I don't quite understand the situation. I read from a book that because the wavefunction of the unstable state extends to infinity. Hence the boundary condition changes (different from bound state's), that's why the complex energy. (The complex energy is still the eigenvalue of the Hamiltonian.)
But I remember that we can prove that the eigenvalues of a Hermitian operators are always real. Like the following proof in the braket language,
from
A|a'\rangle = a'|a'\rangle and \langle a''|A = a''^*\langle a''|
where A is an Hermitian operator and a',a'' are its eigenvalues.
We times the first equation with \langle a''|, the second equation with |a'\rangle, then substract,
\Rightarrow (a' - a''^*)\langle a''|a'\rangle = 0
now we select a' = a'', then we conclude that a' is real.
So, eigenvalues of a Hermitian operator must be real.

In short, my question is,
(1) is the complex energy of resonance in QM the eigenvalue of Hamiltonian?
(2) If (1) is true, then how to explain the breakdown of the proof I wrote above?

Thanks for any ideas.
Sincerely
 
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(1): No
 
malawi_glenn said:
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(1): No
thanks!
So...the complex energy poles are...? :shy:
 
Have you gone through the derivation of the S-matrix in non relativistic quantum mechanics?
 
malawi_glenn said:
Have you gone through the derivation of the S-matrix in non relativistic quantum mechanics?

Actually I haven't gone though the detailed derivation of the S-matrix in non-relativistic quantum mechanics.
I briefly glanced over the section about resonance in Sakurai's book just now.
Do you mean that the resonance energy is the eigenvalue of the sum of the Hamiltonian and the "centrifugal potential?" So, the resonance energy is not the eigenvalue of the Hamiltonian.
But in this way, the sum of Hamiltonian and the centrifugal potential is a Hermitian operator too. Hence the eigenvalues must be real, isn't it?
Could you hint me the key ideas of how to develop the imaginary part of the resonance complex energy?
Thanks.
 
Sakurais book is not good for theory of resonance scattering, at least if you want to do it with S-matrix etc.

Have I implied all the things you are asking for? The resonance is a peak in the cross section.


The Scattering chapter of Merzbacher is quite good.

Anyway, in sakurai, you'll see that the resonance energy is obtained by doing a local taylor expansion of cot(delta_l). But you have already assumed the existence of a resonance etc, so its not so good for resonance scattering as I mentioned.
 

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