Should I Retake Physics 1 Before Taking Physics 2 After Learning Calculus?

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The discussion centers around whether a student who has completed algebra-based Physics 1 and has a background in calculus should retake Physics 1 in its calculus-based form before enrolling in calculus-based Physics 2. The scope includes considerations of academic prerequisites, foundational knowledge for future courses, and implications for GPA.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that taking calculus-based Physics 1 is essential for a proper foundation in physics, as it aligns with how physicists typically approach problems.
  • Others argue that passing calculus-based Physics 1 is generally a prerequisite for enrolling in calculus-based Physics 2, indicating that the student may not have a choice in the matter.
  • A participant recommends auditing calculus-based Physics 1 if the student cannot take it for credit, to ensure understanding before moving on to Physics 2.
  • There are questions regarding the student's academic background, such as whether they are a transfer student and how that might affect their course options and credit transfer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that taking calculus-based Physics 1 is advisable or necessary, but there is no consensus on the student's specific situation or the policies of their school regarding course enrollment and credit.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the school's policies on course prerequisites and credit for taking both algebra-based and calculus-based Physics 1. There are also unresolved questions about the student's academic history and decision-making process regarding their major.

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Students considering a transition from algebra-based to calculus-based physics courses, particularly those majoring in physics or related fields, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi,

I took algebra-based Physics 1 (classical mechanics). I have taken up to Calc 2 and Linear Algebra, and I was wondering if it's ok to move on to calc-based Physics 2 (electromagnetism) or if I should take calc-based Physics 1.

I intend to major in physics and received an A- in Physics 1. My GPA is important to me as is having a strong foundation for upper level courses. Please advise.
 
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C5F8576 said:
I took algebra-based Physics 1 (classical mechanics). I have taken up to Calc 2 and Linear Algebra, and I was wondering if it's ok to move on to calc-based Physics 2 (electromagnetism) or if I should take calc-based Physics 1.
The correct alternative is enter the course for Calculus-based Physics 1.
 
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Calc based physics 1. The calculus approach is how physicists actually solve the problems so you need it for a proper foundation.
 
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C5F8576 said:
Hi,

I took algebra-based Physics 1 (classical mechanics). I have taken up to Calc 2 and Linear Algebra, and I was wondering if it's ok to move on to calc-based Physics 2 (electromagnetism) or if I should take calc-based Physics 1.

I intend to major in physics and received an A- in Physics 1. My GPA is important to me as is having a strong foundation for upper level courses. Please advise.
Definitely calculus-based Physics 1. It is de rigeur as a strong foundation for upper level physics courses; and, since you've already been exposed to basic physics principles in algebra-based Physics 1 and have already completed Calculus 2, you should be well positioned to do better with respect to grades as well; hence, satisfying both of your goals.

But please clarify your situation. Are you a transfer student who took algebra-based Physics I at a different school (such as community college)? But if not, and you take both algebra-based Physics I and calculus-based Physics I at the same school, can you get credit for both? Did you decide on becoming a physics major only after taking algebra-based Physics I (otherwise, why didn't you take the calculus-based Physics I at the start)?
 
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I don't think you really have a choice here. Passing calculus-based Physics I is normally a pre-requisite for calculus-based Physics II. I doubt the school will let you enroll in Physics II.
 
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I agree - you probably don't have a choice.
You also may run into the problem that your school will not let you take both courses for credit. In that case, I would recommend auditing Calc-based Physics 1 before taking Physics 2, (If that option is available)
 
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