Review Forces Homework: 3 Boxes, F=ma, Drawings & Equations

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The problem involves three boxes, A, B, and C, connected by ropes and subjected to a constant upward force while experiencing downward acceleration. The task includes creating labeled drawings, free-body diagrams, and equations based on the diagrams without solving for any variables.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the implications of acceleration being the same for all boxes and the absence of normal forces. Questions arise regarding whether the mass of box C should include the masses of boxes A and B.

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Some participants confirm the absence of normal forces and clarify that box C should be considered as its own system when evaluating forces. There is an ongoing exploration of how to approach the mass considerations for box C.

Contextual Notes

The problem does not specify the presence of normal forces, leading to questions about the interpretation of mass in the context of the free-body diagrams.

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Homework Statement



Three Boxes, A, B, and C, are connected to each other using light vertical ropes, with box B hanging below box A, and C hanging below B. Call the tension in the rope connecting A and B "T_1" and that between B and C "T_2". A constant upward force F is applied to box A. Together, the boxes have a downward acceleration a. Gravity, as usual, pulls downwards, and take the positive direction as upwards. a) Make a labeled drawing. B) draw correct and complete free-body diagrams. c) give the equation(s) that come from the free body diagrams. You do not need to solve for anything.

Homework Equations



F=ma

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I am most concerned with C.

For box a: F-Ft_1-F_g=m_a*a
For box b: Ft_1-Ft_2-F_g=m_b*a
For box c: Ft_2-F_g=m_c*a

1) my acceleration, a, is the same for all boxes
2) There is no normal force as the problem does not state that the boxes are on the ground or anything(?)
3) Should the mass for box c include the mass's of A+B?

Thank you.
 
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1) my acceleration, a, is the same for all boxes
Right

RJLiberator said:
2) There is no normal force as the problem does not state that the boxes are on the ground or anything(?)
Right

RJLiberator said:
3) Should the mass for box c include the mass's of A+B?
Why?
 
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Hm. Since there is no normal force, and these boxes are accelerating upwards, it does not make sense to include all mass's for box c.
 
When it says something like "make a free body diagram for box C" or "evaluate all the forces on box C" then you are taking box C as it's own system. That means the mass of the system is the mass of box C, regardless of any normal forces.
Normal forces would just mean that different forces are acting on box C, but it wouldn't change the mass of box C.
 
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I see.

Thank you for the clarification. That makes sense.
 

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