Undergrad Rewriting a complex number for use in an analytic computation

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The discussion revolves around rewriting the expression $$\tilde{x_0} = 1 - \sqrt{X + i\delta}$$ in the form of $$a + i\delta$$ for real number X, particularly focusing on cases where X is positive or negative. When X is positive, the square root simplifies to $$\sqrt{X}$$, while for negative X, it becomes $$i\sqrt{-X}$$. Participants explore how to express $$\sqrt{X + i\delta}$$ as $$a + ib$$, with considerations for the sign of b depending on the value of X. The conversation emphasizes the importance of the imaginary part and the behavior of the expression as $$\delta$$ approaches zero. Ultimately, the goal is to derive an explicit expression for the square root in terms of X and $$\delta$$.
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Consider an equation, $$\tilde{x_0}
= \ln(X+ i\delta),$$ where X may be positive or negative and ##0< \delta \ll 1##. Now, if ##X>0## this evaluates to ##\ln(X)## in some limiting prescription for ##\delta \rightarrow 0## while if ##X<0##, we get ##\ln(-X) + i \pi. ##

Now, consider, $$\tilde{x_0} = 1-\sqrt{X+i \delta}.$$ How may I write this in the form ##a + i \delta##, where a is real?
 
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For real number X
X=|X|sgn(X)=|X|\ e^{(1-sgn(X))\pi/2\ i}
so I think
\sqrt{X}=\sqrt{|X|}\ e^{(1-sgn(X))\pi/4\ i}
In short for X < 0
\sqrt{X}=i\sqrt{-X}
 
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You have $$

z_0=\left |Z\right |e^{i\theta} + i\delta $$
$$x_0 =\log(z_0) $$
$$\mathcal Re z_0= \left |Z\right |\cos(\theta) \nonumber $$
$$\mathcal I am z_0=\left |Z\right |\sin(\theta) + \delta \nonumber $$
$$\log(z_0)=\frac{1}{2}\log(\left |Z\right |^2+\delta^2)+i\arctan(\frac{\left |Z\right |\sin(\theta)+\delta}{\left |Z\right |\cos(\theta)})

$$
for ##\log(-Z + i\delta)## you have ##\theta = \pi## and$$\log(-Z + i\delta)=\frac{1}{2}\log(Z^2 + \delta^2)+i\arctan(\frac{\delta}{\left |Z\right |})$$As you can see, you can't ignore the imaginary part of ##Z##.(Sorry about the equation spacing but latex won't interpret the "\\\" multiple line instruction today)
 
Fred Wright said:
(Sorry about the equation spacing but latex won't interpret the "\\\" multiple line instruction today)
It is accepted within \begin{align*} A&=a \\ B&=b \end{align*}:
\begin{align*}A&=a \\ B&=b\end{align*}
 
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The expression ## \sqrt {X+ i\delta}##, will equal a term of the form ##a+ib## , for## a,b## Real, and then you can write ## (1+a) +ib ##.
 
WWGD said:
The expression ## \sqrt {X+ i\delta}##, will equal a term of the form ##a+ib## , for## a,b## Real, and then you can write ## (1+a) +ib ##.
@WWGD thanks, yes this is what I’ve been trying to do. How to write it in such a form if X < 0?
 
CAF123 said:
@WWGD thanks, yes this is what I’ve been trying to do. How to write it in such a form if X < 0?
Ok, I I was just thinking of just taking a square root of the expression, which would be of the form a+ib, with neither a nor b equal to 0 and then grouping the parts together. Would that work, or is that too obvious? Edit: I was thinking along the lines of what Fred Wright wrote. Are you looking for an explicit expression for the square root in terms of ## X , \delta##?
 
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WWGD said:
Ok, I I was just thinking of just taking a square root of the expression, which would be of the form a+ib, with neither a nor b equal to 0 and then grouping the parts together. Would that work, or is that too obvious? Edit: I was thinking along the lines of what Fred Wright wrote. Are you looking for an explicit expression for the square root in terms of ## X , \delta##?
Thanks. Yes, I want to find ##\sqrt{X+i\delta} = a + ib## for the cases X <0 and X>0. As ##0 < \delta \ll 1## I can say ##b=\pm\delta## so all I need to decide is 1) the sign of b here and 2) what a is. Perhaps the sign of b depends on whether X is positive or negative but I can’t see how to prove that.
 
\sqrt{X+iδ}=(X^2+δ^2)^{1/4} \ e^{iϕ/2}=(X^2+δ^2)^{1/4} (\cos\frac{\phi}{2} + i \ \sin\frac{\phi}{2})
where
ϕ=tan^{−1}\frac{δ}{X}\ for\ X&gt;0
ϕ=π/2\ for\ X=0
ϕ=tan^{−1}\frac{\delta}{X}+π \ for\ X&lt;0
or
ϕ=tan^{−1}\frac{\delta}{X}+\frac{\pi}{2}(1−sgn(X))

As I posted in #2, I wonder why you are so much worrying about the expression with δ though δ→0 does not seem different from ##\delta=0## in its behavior.
 
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