MelodyKitn
Okay, so mini grid, we're thinking compass?... Hmm...
*flies to the rafters to think*
Let's see...
*flies to the rafters to think*
Let's see...
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SpeedyKupad
*wondering if melodykitn is still reading chapter 153*
boxcutter: do you think we're a bunch of idiots for not getting this?
*points at melodykitn*
oh, there you are!
boxcutter: do you think we're a bunch of idiots for not getting this?
*points at melodykitn*
oh, there you are!
ffutahw
At any rate, it's lunch time here. I'll be back soon, hopefully refreshed. Good luck while I'm gone!
ffutahw
SpeedyKupad said:*wondering if melodykitn is still reading chapter 153*
boxcutter: do you think we're a bunch of idiots for not getting this?
I doubt it. He himself said that this one was hard, after all.
SpeedyKupad
ffutahw said:
yeah, i know. i was just kidding. I'm about to sleep soon.
Boxcutter
ffutahw: I've done some reading about incubuses and succubuses now. most sources claim they have something to do with sexuality and intercourse but as you say, some of them also tell me that incubuses are also considered to be the draining-type of demons who will slowly drain your soul.
the succubus however, seems to only be involved in sexual matters.
the succubus however, seems to only be involved in sexual matters.
MelodyKitn
I thought succubi use sexual matters as a means of drawing a man's soul?...
Oh well.. I tried to flip through the posts, but it's a lot to catch up on Speedy x.x
My mind is swamped... let me try again...
Oh well.. I tried to flip through the posts, but it's a lot to catch up on Speedy x.x
My mind is swamped... let me try again...
Boxcutter
so the plurals are succubi and incubi? i got the notion that Incubi is the word for the attacks that these demons commit, but I suppose that page was a little off, since most other pages use the ending "i" for the plural form
SpeedyKupad
got a new word! IPIDUQNO. at least i tried something slightly different now. will try to do several variations on this.
edit: darn, that wasn't even close to becoming a word!
edit: darn, that wasn't even close to becoming a word!
MelodyKitn
I almost had the word RESCUEME... but instead it was RESCSNRE
*sniffles*
*sniffles*
SpeedyKupad
MelodyKitn said:I almost had the word RESCUEME... but instead it was RESCSNRE
mine wasn't that far-- RINFMPNO i was trying to find a way on how to make it INFERNO
SpeedyKupad
that's it! I am going to bed. hope you guys solve this within 8 hrs so i can just get sneaky and pm you all for hints. 
catch you later! :zzz:
ps. box: don't give away too many hints until i get back.
joke
catch you later! :zzz:
ps. box: don't give away too many hints until i get back.
joke
MelodyKitn
*kneels on the floor in front of the pieces, little arrows drawn on the ground with dust and dirt, papers scattered and strewn all about*
Compass... compass... but how many steps?
*she mumbles as her wings furl and unfurl in frustration*
I know where to go... but how do I get there?...
*she stops and looks up at her sleeping comrades and smiles. Tilting her halo, she looks back down and gets to work, ever more intending on trying to help get herself and her new friends out of this entranceway to nab the relic and on their way to face Dracul himself...*
Compass... compass... but how many steps?
*she mumbles as her wings furl and unfurl in frustration*
I know where to go... but how do I get there?...
*she stops and looks up at her sleeping comrades and smiles. Tilting her halo, she looks back down and gets to work, ever more intending on trying to help get herself and her new friends out of this entranceway to nab the relic and on their way to face Dracul himself...*
ffutahw
Boxcutter -> Succubi and Incubi have different roots; they are seen now as the male and female of the same type of demon, but while the succubus originated as a seductress, whereas the incubus originated as a life draining spirit.
As to the riddle, I had some more thoughts at lunch which may get us somewhere or may just give us more gibberish.
<
These two thoughts are only vaguely similar.
The first was sparked by Boxcutters hint to look at the small grid as a game controller. While a compass needle points north regardless of how you turn it, a game controller remains in the position you hold it in, and only rotates when you rotate it. With that in mind, suppose you rotate the grid with "you" as you follow the path on the larger grid. Meaning, if you start with "A" which is a diagonal move up and to the left, rotate the smaller grid so that "D" is now in the upper left corner, while "A" is in the middle left, always keeping "D" pointed in the last direction you turned. This would create a wholly different type of path than anything we've used before, which is frustrating considering all of the number combinations we've already tried, but may get us somewhere.
The other idea is that the small grid in fact is a compass of sorts, but rather than always pointing North, the compass always points in the direction of the X; in other words, we rotate the small grid so that the same character is always facing the X after each step we take. The difficulty here is in determining the initial orientation of the compass. There are two possibilities here, and the first of those is the simple one we've been following before; D indicateds north. The other is that the small grid is already pointing at north where it is pictured on the image itself. That makes 'J' the initial 'north' in this case.[/color]>
I'm going to start working with these ideas for now.
As to the riddle, I had some more thoughts at lunch which may get us somewhere or may just give us more gibberish.
<
These two thoughts are only vaguely similar.
The first was sparked by Boxcutters hint to look at the small grid as a game controller. While a compass needle points north regardless of how you turn it, a game controller remains in the position you hold it in, and only rotates when you rotate it. With that in mind, suppose you rotate the grid with "you" as you follow the path on the larger grid. Meaning, if you start with "A" which is a diagonal move up and to the left, rotate the smaller grid so that "D" is now in the upper left corner, while "A" is in the middle left, always keeping "D" pointed in the last direction you turned. This would create a wholly different type of path than anything we've used before, which is frustrating considering all of the number combinations we've already tried, but may get us somewhere.
The other idea is that the small grid in fact is a compass of sorts, but rather than always pointing North, the compass always points in the direction of the X; in other words, we rotate the small grid so that the same character is always facing the X after each step we take. The difficulty here is in determining the initial orientation of the compass. There are two possibilities here, and the first of those is the simple one we've been following before; D indicateds north. The other is that the small grid is already pointing at north where it is pictured on the image itself. That makes 'J' the initial 'north' in this case.[/color]>
I'm going to start working with these ideas for now.
MelodyKitn
Ffhut.. 
I'm boggled.. (I think I understand now)
(And could you point out what page the whole controller idea came from... I can't find the post)
I'm boggled.. (I think I understand now)(And could you point out what page the whole controller idea came from... I can't find the post)
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ffutahw
MelodyKitn said:Ffhut..
(And could you point out what page the whole controller idea came from... I can't find the post)
I can't find it either. he must have edited it out or deleted it, but he was quoted in one post.
ffutahw
My ideas have turned up zilch so far.
MelodyKitn
So.. think of the mini grid as a controller... hmmm..
controller/compass...
*knocks on her head*
This is confusing me...
controller/compass...
*knocks on her head*
This is confusing me...
ffutahw
Wheres a game genie when you need one x.x;;
MelodyKitn
*giggles*
((I have some work to input into the computer, so I can't think of the puzzle for a few.. I'll be right back ^^))
((I have some work to input into the computer, so I can't think of the puzzle for a few.. I'll be right back ^^))
ffutahw
I got it! <oh, omega already used this joke, nevermind...[/color]>
ffutahw
In all seriousness though. I keep getting close to words, but no actual results. irritating...
flyingnome
i must be braindead, i still can't get past 45 :(
ffutahw
45 took some doing. You'll breeze through some, and spend ages on others. Don't get disheartened or down yourself, you got this far!
iggy_killer
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*walks up from behind the mansion*
mkay what's up guys...ive got some ideas..ive only tryed once but ill tweak it somemore
< mkay in the osurce code you have this...
ABC|DEF|GHI|JKL|MNO|PQR|STU|VWXYZ
i was thinking that this has to do with the controller...abc's go NW, def goes N...but how many steps? well i did it with the position it is on the line
a=1nw b=2nw c=nw d=1n...etc...ive tryed it once i didnt get much, but ill try different methods...id just like to share and see if anyone has many inspiration from it
EDIT: by using this u will get 1nw 1ne 3s 1se 1se 2sw 4w 1n by using the caps in the source[/color]>
mkay what's up guys...ive got some ideas..ive only tryed once but ill tweak it somemore
< mkay in the osurce code you have this...
ABC|DEF|GHI|JKL|MNO|PQR|STU|VWXYZ
i was thinking that this has to do with the controller...abc's go NW, def goes N...but how many steps? well i did it with the position it is on the line
a=1nw b=2nw c=nw d=1n...etc...ive tryed it once i didnt get much, but ill try different methods...id just like to share and see if anyone has many inspiration from it
EDIT: by using this u will get 1nw 1ne 3s 1se 1se 2sw 4w 1n by using the caps in the source[/color]>
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MelodyKitn
((I actually have to do work in the office right now, so I can't test my theories out... but will try to soon ^^))
ffutahw
iggy_killer said:
I dunno. It's possible. But Boxcutter did say that the riddle was possible without the new hint, and this was just added to clarify it for people who subsequently get here. It's worth looking into though, nothing else has worked yet. I'm still playing with some whacky Ideas I had.
iggy_killer
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err so far with my tweaking..i didnt get much..sometimes ran off the grid...err I am sure we have the right directions..just not the right amount of steps...
MelodyKitn
Yeah, I think we know how to use the compass... at least I'm assuming we know the directions to head in...
It's just knowing the number of steps to go in those directions that baffles us.
*flies up to the rafters and shakes her head*
Puzzling...
((Out to Lunch))
It's just knowing the number of steps to go in those directions that baffles us.
*flies up to the rafters and shakes her head*
Puzzling...
((Out to Lunch))
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iggy_killer
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ERR...where is everyone...i swear if we don't get this one by 2day I am going to get my elephant gun...