Riding a Bike vs 200mph Wind: Who Has More Force?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the comparison of forces experienced by a person in two scenarios: standing on top of a car moving at 200 mph versus standing still while being hit by a 200 mph wind. Participants explore the sensations and forces involved in these situations, including personal experiences with high-speed winds while riding motorcycles.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the wind feels the same on the skin in both scenarios, suggesting that the force experienced is equivalent.
  • Others introduce personal anecdotes about riding motorcycles at high speeds, discussing the sensation of wind on the face and the impact of protective gear like windscreens and helmets.
  • A participant notes that the air speed relative to the rider on a motorcycle may be less than the actual speed due to the motorcycle's motion, which could affect the perceived force of the wind.
  • There is a contention regarding the relevance of body position and protective gear in determining the experience of wind force.
  • Some participants express disagreement about the significance of certain factors, such as the presence of a windscreen or the position of the body while riding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are multiple competing views regarding the forces experienced in the two scenarios, and the discussion remains unresolved with differing opinions on the relevance of various factors.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the impact of protective gear and body position on the perceived wind force, and there is a lack of clarity regarding the assumptions made about the scenarios presented.

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what wind has more force the wind of you standing on top of a car doing 200mph or you standing still and a 200mph wind hitting you?
 
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In both cases, the wind feels the same on your skin, so it is hitting you with the same force.
 
i want to add to my question to get further answers. the question started when my friend said he has been in 100mph winds. being he exaggerates often i said you probably haven't been in 100mph. He said yes I have, i drove 100mph on my motorcycle.
 
Ah, yes, the feeling of 100mph wind on your face is indeed the same wether you're riding your hog in sunny weather, or holding on for dear life in a storm.
 
gendou2 said:
... or holding on for dear life in a storm ... with 80% of your body behind a windscreen.
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Huh? Windscreen? No, I was talking about only the feeling on your face. The rest of the body, windscreen or no, is irrelevant. In any cast, problem solved, so let's lock it up. :smile:
 
gendou2 said:
No, I was talking about only the feeling on your face.
I wear a full face helmet, (also ear plugs to reduce wind noise), when I ride a motorcycle. Considering head height is almost as high as a SUV, speeds on a motorcycle appear to be lower than in a car. 100mph or faster wouldn't be too fun if your face was exposed.
 
gendou2 said:
Huh? Windscreen? No, I was talking about only the feeling on your face. The rest of the body, windscreen or no, is irrelevant. In any cast, problem solved, so let's lock it up. :smile:
Well, the point is that the air in the envelope of a moving motorcycle, even where your face is, is possibly significantly less than 100mph relative to you.

A 100mph wind OTOH, would be truly 100mph.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Well, the point is that the air in the envelope of a moving motorcycle, even where your face is, is possibly significantly less than 100mph relative to you.

A 100mph wind OTOH, would be truly 100mph.

True, but this is negligible and I don't think it's the question being addressed.
 
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gendou2 said:
True, but this is negligible and I don't think it's the question being addressed.
I don't think it is negligible, and I do think it's the question being addressed, as per post #3, in which the OP explains the circumstances under which the question has been raised.
 

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