Ridley Scott Talks 'Prometheus 2' Film

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The discussion revolves around opinions and reactions to the film "Prometheus" and its sequel, with a focus on themes, plot elements, and character behavior. Participants share their views on the film's narrative coherence, visual style, and the implications of its connections to the "Alien" franchise.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants enjoyed "Prometheus" for its spooky atmosphere and visual style, despite acknowledging plot holes.
  • Others expressed disappointment, criticizing the film for its narrative absurdities and character behavior, likening it to a teenage slasher movie.
  • There are conflicting views on whether the film was intended as a standalone project or an "Alien" prequel, with some noting that Ridley Scott's original plot ideas included controversial themes involving religion.
  • Participants discussed the film's artistic merits, with some describing it as visually stunning but narratively lacking.
  • Humorous comparisons were made regarding the sequel's title, with some joking about other infamous sequels.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express mixed feelings about "Prometheus," with no consensus on its quality. Some appreciate its artistic elements while others find significant flaws in its storytelling and character development.

Contextual Notes

Discussions include references to changes in the film's development and the implications of its themes, which remain unresolved and open to interpretation.

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Greg, I think you and I agree most of the time, but not on this one (the original Prometheus). I'm with "honest trailers" on this one:

 
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phinds said:
Greg, I think you and I agree most of the time, but not on this one (the original Prometheus). I'm with "honest trailers" on this one:

Lol that really was hilarious. I guess I just turned off my logic switch and got sucked into the atmosphere.
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
Lol that really was hilarious. I guess I just turned off my logic switch and got sucked into the atmosphere.
Actually, I'm a big fan of this kind of movie and that's what I usually do too, but this one for some reason annoyed me more than entertained me.
 
Didn't this movie have some changes while it was being made?
Like I originally heard about it as an Alien prequel.
But then Scott changed his mind and it was a stand alone project.
But then it kinda was a prequel but not really??

I did enjoy the movie in the end, but it wasn't anything fantastic for sure. The plot holes and sillyness took a lot away for me.
 
cpscdave said:
Didn't this movie have some changes while it was being made?
Like I originally heard about it as an Alien prequel.
But then Scott changed his mind and it was a stand alone project.
But then it kinda was a prequel but not really??

It gets worse than that. Way worse:

Movies.com: You throw religion and spirituality into the equation for Prometheus, though, and it almost acts as a hand grenade. We had heard it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destruction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that Jesus Christ might have been an alien. Was that ever considered?

Ridley Scott: We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an “our children are misbehaving down there” scenario, there are moments where it looks like we’ve gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, “Lets’ send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it. Guess what? They crucified him.

Ridley Scott's original synopsis for Prometheus was, "Jesus was an alien, and the aliens decide to exterminate humanity because humans crucified him, but they accidentally create parasitic xenomorphs instead." In another interview, he confirms that yes, that was actually the original plot.

Maybe that gives us a glimpse into how Hollywood works. Jesus Christ was an alien, and, and then xenomorphs, and ugggggh it's so stupid.

Not to mention, the Roman empire was bad, but the Aztec empire was just peachy? Why not the Japanese empire? Maybe Hirohito was the alien. Or Genghis Khan? Space Genghis sounds better than Space Jesus to me, but then I'm not an Academy Award-winning director, so what would I know?
 
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Artribution said:
Space Genghis sounds better than Space Jesus to me,

You forgot about the one true space deity Xenu!
 
I thought Prometheus had an incredible visual style. Every moment was a work of art. It's only disappointing because the story was garbage and didn't explain any of the nonsensical events.
 
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Khashishi said:
I thought Prometheus had an incredible visual style. Every moment was a work of art. It's only disappointing because the story was garbage and didn't explain any of the nonsensical events.
I fully agree. Prometheus is the gorgeous dumb bimbo of films. Enchanting to look at, but oh, dread the moment when it decides to say something.
In fact, it reminds me of that girl called Storm from Tim Minchin's sketch of the same name.

That is to say, I'll probably spend a couple of hours with the sequel, maybe with a hand of the mute button, though.
 
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Prometheus 2?

Why not Catwoman 2? Ishtar 2? Gigli 2?
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Why not Catwoman 2?

Stop it. Stop it right now. It's never appropriate to joke about making a sequel to that movie. ?:)
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
I for one really enjoyed the first Prometheus.

This was one of the most disappointing movie experiences I ever went through. It just failed completely to meet my expectations.

Yes there were some plot holes, but it was spooky and haunting.

There might be a few spooky and haunting scenes in the first half of the movie. But I disagree that the overall atmosphere of the movie is spooky and haunting. And especially in the second half there are also a lot of scenes that I found downright absurd.

To me, a spooky and haunting movie must have believable protagonists. But the protagonists of Prometheus behaved as if they were part of some teenage slasher movie.
 
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Smattering said:
But the protagonists of Prometheus behaved as if they were part of some teenage slasher movie.

I wouldn't trust them with a dune buggy, much less a starship.
 

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