Riemann tensor, Ricci tensor of a 3 sphere

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the Riemann tensor, Ricci tensor, and Ricci scalar for a given metric of a three-sphere, presented in spherical coordinates. Participants explore the implications of the metric's structure on curvature properties.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to compute the Riemann tensor using the provided Christoffel symbols but encounters all zero components, leading to doubts about the calculations. Some participants question the nature of the metric, suggesting it may represent a flat space rather than a true three-sphere.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some expressing relief upon realizing that the Riemann tensor can indeed be zero in certain contexts. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the metric's representation and its implications for curvature, with no explicit consensus reached.

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Some participants note that the metric provided may not accurately describe a three-sphere, as it appears to represent R^3 in spherical coordinates. This raises questions about the assumptions underlying the calculations and the definitions being used.

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I have the metric of a three sphere:

g_{\mu \nu} =<br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\<br /> 0 &amp; r^2 &amp; 0 \\<br /> 0 &amp; 0 &amp; r^2\sin^2\theta<br /> \end{pmatrix}

Find Riemann tensor, Ricci tensor and Ricci scalar for the given metric.

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I have all the formulas I need, and I calculated the necessary Christoffel symbols, by hand and by mathematica and they match. There are 9 non vanishing Christoffel symbols. Some I calculated and for others I used the symmetry properties and the fact that the metric is diagonal (which simplifies things).

But when I go and try to calculate Riemman tensor via:

R^{a}_{bcd}=\partial_d \Gamma^a_{bc}-\partial_c\Gamma^a_{bd}+\Gamma^m_{bc}\Gamma^a_{dm}-\Gamma^m_{bd}\Gamma^a_{cm}

I get all zeroes for components :\

And I kinda doubt that every single component is zero.

The Christoffel symbols are:

<br /> \begin{array}{ccc}<br /> \Gamma _{\theta r}^{\theta } &amp; = &amp; \frac{1}{r} \\<br /> \Gamma _{\phi r}^{\phi } &amp; = &amp; \frac{1}{r} \\<br /> \Gamma _{r\theta }^{\theta } &amp; = &amp; \frac{1}{r} \\<br /> \Gamma _{\theta \theta }^r &amp; = &amp; -r \\<br /> \Gamma _{\phi \theta }^{\phi } &amp; = &amp; \cot (\theta ) \\<br /> \Gamma _{r\phi }^{\phi } &amp; = &amp; \frac{1}{r} \\<br /> \Gamma _{\theta \phi }^{\phi } &amp; = &amp; \cot (\theta ) \\<br /> \Gamma _{\phi \phi }^r &amp; = &amp; -r \sin ^2(\theta ) \\<br /> \Gamma _{\phi \phi }^{\theta } &amp; = &amp; -\cos (\theta ) \sin (\theta )<br /> \end{array}<br />
 
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that is the metric of R^3 in sphereical coordinates with one of the angles constant. hense...a plane.
 
Oh, so it's normal for Riemann tensor to be zero since there is no curvature. Phew, I thought I might be doing something wrong xD

Is there some easier way of showing that all of the components of Riemann tensor are zero, rather than manually calculating them all?

And how come when I look at 2-sphere

<br /> g_{\mu \nu} = <br /> \begin{pmatrix} <br /> r^2 &amp; 0 \\ <br /> 0 &amp; r^2\sin^2\theta <br /> \end{pmatrix}

I get several non vanishing components of Riemann tensor? Is it because I'm now looking it from my 3d perspective so I can see that the plane has to be curved to form a sphere?
 
but now you can pull out r^2 which is clearly nonflat conformal.

you can't just throw away terms in the metric and think you're looking at an orthogonal projection onto the remaining coordinates.

if you are in a flat geometry in curvilinear coordinate systems then transforming the coordinate system back into flat coordinates might help ease the pain.
 
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What you have at the top is not the metric of a 3-sphere, but simply the metric of R^3 in spherical polar coordinates. A 3-sphere metric will have r fixed and 3 angles to describe where you are (a sphere is hollow remember), just as a 2-sphere has r fixed and 2 angles to describe where you are.
 

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