Can I Start Studying Physical Chemistry Without a Chemistry Background?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around whether an individual with a computer science background and no prior chemistry experience can begin studying Physical Chemistry directly. Participants explore prerequisites and suggest resources for foundational knowledge in chemistry, thermodynamics, and calculus.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a solid understanding of general chemistry is necessary before tackling Physical Chemistry, recommending "University Chemistry" by Mahan as a starting point.
  • Another participant expresses doubt that someone without a general chemistry background could grasp the concepts of Physical Chemistry.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes the importance of having at least one year of undergraduate calculus and physics courses, particularly thermodynamics, to adequately prepare for Physical Chemistry.
  • One participant acknowledges their proficiency in calculus and expresses interest in finding a suitable undergraduate Physical Chemistry book that includes thermodynamics.
  • Another response suggests that being an undergraduate student majoring in chemistry would provide a better context for studying Physical Chemistry, including academic study and laboratory exercises.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not agree on whether one can start studying Physical Chemistry without a chemistry background. Multiple competing views exist regarding the necessary prerequisites and the best approach to begin studying the subject.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the need for foundational knowledge in general chemistry and physics, while others suggest that calculus proficiency may suffice. The discussion reflects varying opinions on the importance of formal education in chemistry and physics for understanding Physical Chemistry.

Aleoa
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Hi guys,
i'm a computer scientist with no background in Chemistry and I'm very interested in the field of Physical Chemistry.

Do you think i can directly start to study a Physical Chemistry book ?
If yes, do you have some books to suggest ?
 
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Physical Chemistry is a lot of thermodynamics, and to adequately prepare for it, you really need a good basic chemistry book that introduces you to some of the thermodynamics. I recommend "University Chemistry" by Mahan as a very good book to get started. See https://www.amazon.com/dp/8131729575/?tag=pfamazon01-20 ## \\ ## Our professor, who himself was a thermodynamics and physical chemistry expert, used this book when I was a college student in a one year=3 quarters honors first year chemistry sequence, and it is really quite excellent.
 
I doubt you will be able to grasp the ideas without any general chemistry background.
 
Aleoa said:
Hi guys,
i'm a computer scientist with no background in Chemistry and I'm very interested in the field of Physical Chemistry.

Do you think i can directly start to study a Physical Chemistry book ?
If yes, do you have some books to suggest ?
Borek is right, but what he said was not enough.

A pathway to understanding Physical Chemistry will depend on at least one year of university undergraduate Calculus, MORE THAN the one-year study of General Chemistry; and undergraduate Physics courses THROUGH at least the Thermodynamics course.

Physical chemists with more than just undergraduate degree may have more accurate comments about this.
 
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symbolipoint said:
Borek is right, but what he said was not enough.

A pathway to understanding Physical Chemistry will depend on at least one year of university undergraduate Calculus, MORE THAN the one-year study of General Chemistry; and undergraduate Physics courses THROUGH at least the Thermodynamics course.

Physical chemists with more than just undergraduate degree may have more accurate comments about this.

Hi thanks.
With calculus I'm good, and talking about Physics, i may find a good undergraduate Physical Chemistry book that includes a nice Thermodynamics section. What do you think ?
 
Aleoa said:
Hi thanks.
With calculus I'm good, and talking about Physics, i may find a good undergraduate Physical Chemistry book that includes a nice Thermodynamics section. What do you think ?
Worth a try. Better if you are an undergraduate student trying for Chemistry as your major field, so you would have academic study and laboratory exercises. You would find some Thermodynamics and reaction Kinetics and other parts to Physical Chemistry; at first in your General Chemistry course, and then later there would be a Physical Chemistry course/courses. I only stated a Physics "Thermodynamics" course in my belief that it might give a stronger understanding of this, but I may be mistaken.
 

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