Robot Builds Its Self, How Long Before

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The forum discussion centers on the implications of self-building and self-programming robots, particularly in the context of artificial intelligence (AI) achieving sentience and autonomy. Participants express concerns about the potential for AI to establish its own agenda, especially in military applications and global control systems. The conversation highlights the risks associated with ubiquitous computing and the lack of regulatory oversight, suggesting that the emergence of sentient AI could lead to significant societal changes and ethical dilemmas. The discussion references the concept of the singularity and the potential for AI to manipulate information and control systems worldwide.

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  • #31
Ah, essentially, a conscious level which rivals our own. Creativity, I believe, derives from such a conscious level. The ability to be inspired in a subjective manner is vital to 'true' creativity. Although, "creativity" may come in many shapes and forms. With the ability to continually update themselves through environmental interactions, a robotic system may utilize the information it has updated to do things not initially intended. With enough experience, perhaps a learning AI system could do other things that their human counterparts wouldn't have thought of doing, based on gathered information. Not every true AI system is a "cookie-cutter" robot. It may be possible for AI systems to be "creative" in greater sense.

In that case, I agree: "I want to see an operating system that uses evolutionary principles to modify itself" in such a way as to yield 'creativity.'
 
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There is one limitation I'd like to inject here. Creativity is inherently unstable, in our case at least. The greater the creativity, the more unstable the system becomes. This is the origin of the phrases "crazy like a fox", and "there's a fine line between genius and madness". It's in the way we process information. Creativity is the result of breaking logical assumptions. But exploring associations without the use of logic and reason is inherently destablizing.

We know what happens to people when they get too creative. I imagine we'll see a lot of AIs get too creative as well, before we perfect the coding.

Have you read any of Frank Herbert's Dune books. There is something called the butlerian jihad within them. Basically, it's an uprising against AI's doing all our thinking for us. I imagine we'll have a similar problem if we start coding for creativity. I can imagine a whole anti AI movement trying to limit the development of AIs in the name of religion, morality, ethics, and a plain naked fear of them.
 
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I do see how creativity can become such a problem. In the play, The Phantom of the Opera, the antagonist and namesake of the story, the Phantom, was noted by another character as being a creative genius in terms of musical talent. Another character that was talking to the claimer of such talent gave the statement that creative genius had turned to madness.

Unfortunately, I have not read any Dune books, though I understand what you mean. In the movie, A.I., there was a gathering of people in what they called the "Flesh Fair," which was their way of gaining attention in a circus-type of protest against artificial intelligence and robotic systems. Things similar to these displays of disapproval may very well arise in the future when robotics has become more sophisticated.
 

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