Rocket accelerating up an incline

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The problem involves a test rocket launched from rest along an incline with constant acceleration. The incline has a specified length and angle, and the rocket's motion is analyzed both during its ascent and after it leaves the incline, focusing on its position vectors at specific points in its trajectory.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of SUVAT equations for constant acceleration motion and how to identify which variables are known or needed for solving the problem. There is exploration of finding the maximum height after leaving the incline and the relationship between the final velocity at the end of the ramp and the initial conditions for the projectile motion.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using specific SUVAT equations to find the maximum height and the position at different times. There is an ongoing exploration of the necessary variables and the relationships between them, with multiple interpretations of the problem being discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion regarding the need for the height of the ramp and the relationship between the ramp's height and the maximum height of the rocket after it leaves the ramp. There is acknowledgment of the information provided in the problem and its sufficiency for finding the required values.

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A test rocket is launched, starting on the ground, from rest, by
accelerating it along an incline with constant acceleration a. The incline has length
L, and it rises at θ degrees above the horizontal. At the instant the rocket leaves the
incline, its engines turn off and it is subject only to gravity, g≡+9.81m/s2. (Air resistance
can be ignored). Taking the usual x-y coordinate system, with an origin at the top edge
of the incline...

(a) What is the position vector when the rocket is at its highest point?
(b) What is the position vector when the rocket is on its way back down and once again at
the same height as the top edge of the incline?

Your symbolic answer should only
depend on a, L, θ, g, and/or numerical factors.

I am so lost on this problemMy attempt:
Height of the incline = LSinθ
Angle: θ=arcsin(Height/L)

Horizontal velocity after rocket has finished accelerating up the incline = cosθ * sqrt(2aL)
Vertical velocity after the rocket has finished accelerating up the incline = sinθ * sqrt(2aL)
 
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What equations do you know for constant acceleration motion? (Often called SUVAT equations.)
 
v^2 = v0^2 + 2a(x − x0)

x = x0 + v0t + ½at^2

v = v0 + at
 
Right. Each SUVAT equation involves four of five variables. To pick the one to use, you see which three variables you know and what variable you are trying to find. Then look for the equation using those four.
Now, thinking about the vertical direction, from leaving the launch ramp to maximum height, what three variables do you know and what variable are you trying to find?
 
we need vertical velocity to be 0 to find maximum height after leaving the ramp. this means we would have to find t when velocity equals 0, but after we find t what should I do? is there another SUVAT equation that yields y position at a specific time?
 
redworld33 said:
we need vertical velocity to be 0 to find maximum height after leaving the ramp. this means we would have to find t when velocity equals 0, but after we find t what should I do? is there another SUVAT equation that yields y position at a specific time?
Yes, and yes.
you will need to find t in order to get the x co-ordinate, and having found t you can use x = x0 + v0t + ½at^2 in the vertical direction. (If you only needed the max height, and didn't need to find t, you could have used v^2 = v0^2 + 2a(x − x0) to find max height.)
 
So I know this is an old thread, but possibly someone could help me because I have the same exact problem. I kind of understand the previous posts, yet, I am confused. In order to find the maximum height, which is not the height of the ramp, I would have to first find the value of the final velocity at the end of the ramp. This final velocity will then act as my initial velocity after it leaves the ramp and the velocity at tmax is 0. Although, to find my max height, wouldn't I also have to know the height of the ramp? I am confused, I didn't want to make a new thread, so hopefully this gets seen by someone!
 
zippeh said:
In order to find the maximum height, which is not the height of the ramp, I would have to first find the value of the final velocity at the end of the ramp. This final velocity will then act as my initial velocity after it leaves the ramp and the velocity at tmax is 0.
if you mean the vertical component of the velocity, yes.
Although, to find my max height, wouldn't I also have to know the height of the ramp?
Yes, but there's enough information given to find that.
 

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