Rocket Velocity Calculation for Different Time Intervals

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average velocity of a rocket during its ascent, specifically focusing on two time intervals: the first 4.45 seconds after clearing the launch platform and the first 5.80 seconds of flight. The problem involves understanding the motion of the rocket under the influence of gravity and potentially varying acceleration.

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  • Participants discuss the need to clarify the assumptions regarding constant acceleration and the significance of the launch platform's height. There are attempts to derive relationships between distance and acceleration using kinematic equations, and questions arise about the correct interpretation of the problem's parameters.

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Some participants have provided insights into the calculations and highlighted the importance of units in determining whether the computed values make sense. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of the launch platform's height on the average velocity calculations, with varying interpretations of the problem's requirements.

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Participants note potential confusion regarding the height of the launch platform and the interpretation of the rocket's altitude at different times. The problem's clarity is questioned, particularly concerning the assumption of constant acceleration throughout the flight.

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Homework Statement


A rocket carrying a satellite is accelerating straight up from the Earth's surface. At 1.35 s after liftoff, the rocket clears the top of its launch platform. After an additional 4.45s it is 1.00km above the ground. Calculate the magnitude of the average velocity of the rocket for a) the 4.45-s part of its flight; b) the first 5.80s of its flight.


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A)I did a and kept on getting 225. (1063-63)/(5.80-1.35)=225
B) I don't get B
 
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The problem isn't very clear

do you have to assume constant accelaration for some part or all of the flight?

the altitude of the launch platfrom is 63m?

the rocket is at 1 km above the ground after 5.8s. part B seems simple.
 
Where did the 63 come from? Is this the height of the launch platform and was it given?
You use v = d/t, or d = vt, which is not correct for accelerated motion.
Rather d = Vi*t + .5*a*t^2 should be used (assuming acceleration is constant).

My method was to use the letter d for the vertical distance traveled in the first 1.35s.
Using that v = formula for accelerated motion on the first 1.35 s of flight, I got a relationship between d and the acceleration.
Using the formula again for the next 4.45 s, I got another relationship between d and a.
Combining the two, I was able to find both d and a. I did not get your 63 m for d.
Having these values made it easy to find the velocities at times 0, 1.35 and 5.8, so simply adding two of them and dividing by 2 gave the average velocity in any interval. I got the 225 m/s value for the 4.45 s interval.
 
63 is the top of the launch platform
 
Knowing the 63 m at time 1.35 makes a big difference in the question!
My assumption of constant acceleration is wrong - you can easily calculate the acceleration over the two time intervals and you get different answers.
Indeed, rockets increase their acceleration as they burn off fuel and decrease their mass.

The question only asks for average velocities and the simple formula for average velocity is just V = (change in distance)/(change in time).
That is what you did for the 4.45 s: (1063-63)/(5.80-1.35)=225
but shouldn't it be (1000-63)/4.45 = 211 ?

Do the (b) part the same way using the 63 meters in time 1.35 s.
 
elpermic said:
A)I did a and kept on getting 225. (1063-63)/(5.80-1.35)=225
Whether you gave us the full question is irrelevant. I can tell upon inspection that your answer is incorrect. Why? You answer is not an acceleration. Get into the habit of always being explicit about units. The cost in doing so is minimal: you have to write a few extra characters. The benefit is immense. You will know whether you answer makes sense from a units perspective. If you don't have the units right you don't have the right answer.

In this case,

(1063\,\text{m}\,-63\,\text{m})/(5.80\,\text{s}\,-1.35\,\text{s}) = 225\,\text{m}/\text{s}

You have just computed a speed, not an acceleration.BTW, that 1063 meters is also incorrect. The vehicle is 1 km above the ground after 5.80 seconds, not 1 km above the top of the launch platform.
 
D H said:
You have just computed a speed, not an acceleration.

the question was to compute a speed
 
You're right. I misread the question.
 

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