Rocket's Max Altitude: 295 kg Weather Rocket

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum altitude of a 295 kg weather rocket that accelerates upward with a specified force and fuel load. Participants are exploring the physics involved in the rocket's ascent and the effects of gravity after fuel depletion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need for multiple calculations, including determining speed and height during the ignition phase and the subsequent ascent due to inertia. Some suggest using SUVAT equations and gravitational potential energy concepts.

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Several participants are attempting calculations and sharing results, while others are questioning the accuracy of their methods. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the impact of changing mass due to fuel consumption, with some advocating for a simpler approach based on constant acceleration.

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Participants note that the problem specifies ignoring air resistance and that the calculations must account for the rocket's changing mass and acceleration during the fuel burn phase.

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A 295 kg weather rocket is loaded with 112 kg of fuel and fired straight up. It accelerates upward at 33.67 m/s2 for 35.2 s, then runs out of fuel. Ignore any air resistance effects.
What is the rocket's maximum altitude?

Im so lost if someone can please help me it would be so awesome
 
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sktgurl930 said:
A 295 kg weather rocket is loaded with 112 kg of fuel and fired straight up. It accelerates upward at 33.67 m/s2 for 35.2 s, then runs out of fuel. Ignore any air resistance effects.
What is the rocket's maximum altitude?

Im so lost if someone can please help me it would be so awesome

The rocket requires 2 calculations.

The first is to determine the speed and height it gets to during the rocket ignition phase.

Thereafter it is being slowed by gravity. Determine from the speed you calculated as a result of the rocket ignition how much higher it will go. Add the 2 distances together.

Here are some formulas to help you.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=905663&postcount=2
 
hmmm not too sure. have you considered any SUVAT equations?? S=ut + 1/2at^2 perhaps then something to do with G.P.E??
 
ok i think I am doing something wrong here cause i got V= 1185.184, and X to = 41718.4768

so with the displacement formula i put x= V*35.2+.5*33.67*T^2

and my answer was 62577.7152 m
 
sktgurl930 said:
ok i think I am doing something wrong here cause i got V= 1185.184, and X to = 41718.4768

so with the displacement formula i put x= V*35.2+.5*33.67*T^2

and my answer was 62577.7152 m

Your first answer is incorrect. The height will be given simply by 1/2 a* t 2 and that looks like you are missing a factor of 1/2. Your initial velocity is correct.

On the second part you have x from the Vf2 - vi2 = 2 a*x. For Vi = 1185.184
(At max height vf will be = 0.)

x = (1185.184)2/2(9.8)

Then add the corrected value of the first part and you're done.
 
The amount of fuel is listed as a given. One must factor in changing mass and therefore acceleration.
 
DaveC426913 said:
The amount of fuel is listed as a given. One must factor in changing mass and therefore acceleration.

Given the statement of the problem, with constant acceleration given, the rate of change of mass should not be a concern. The fuel is apparently expended as it enters the gravity only phase is all you apparently need to know.

If the statement of the problem indicated that initial acceleration was xxx and it maintained constant force, then I agree it would be a concern. But I don't read it that way. And since I read this as an introductory question, I think the simpler interpretation is the most likely.
 
LowlyPion said:
Given the statement of the problem, with constant acceleration given, the rate of change of mass should not be a concern. The fuel is apparently expended as it enters the gravity only phase is all you apparently need to know.

If the statement of the problem indicated that initial acceleration was xxx and it maintained constant force, then I agree it would be a concern. But I don't read it that way. And since I read this as an introductory question, I think the simpler interpretation is the most likely.
You're right. Upon re-reading, I see that the acceleration is also a given, and is constant.
 

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