Rolling Pebbles & Wheels: Analyzing Motion

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The problem involves analyzing the motion of a pebble released on a rolling wheel. It examines conditions under which the pebble will fly off the wheel based on the wheel's velocity and the effects of gravitational and frictional forces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the pebble, including gravitational, normal, and frictional forces. There is an exploration of the conditions for slipping and the relationship between centripetal force and gravitational force. Some participants question the implications of the wheel's rolling motion and its effect on the pebble's stability.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts to resolve the problem and clarifying their understanding of the forces involved. Some have made progress in their reasoning, while others are still seeking clarity on specific aspects of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, including specific conditions for velocity and friction. There is a focus on the mathematical relationships derived from the forces acting on the pebble.

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Homework Statement


A wheel of radius R rolls along the ground with velocity V.
A pebble is carefully released on top of the wheel so that it is instantaneously at rest on the wheel.
(a) Show that the pebble will immediately fly off the wheel if V> sqrt(Rg)
(b) Show that in the case where V< sqrt(Rg) and the coefficient of friction is u=1,the pebble starts to slide when it has rotated through an angle given by theta=arccos[(1/sqrt(2))(V^2/Rg)]-pi/4


The Attempt at a Solution



I've tried resolving the forces along a set of axes parallel and perpendicular to the surface of the sphere,but I can't arrive at the required answer.
 
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For no slipping the gravitational force must be less then the required centripetal force.
The wheel is rolling, so the path of the point on the rim is not a circle but a cycloid.
 
What about the second part?
 
EDIT: Funny... I didn't know how to do this question when I first started this post, but the answer came to me while I was parsing all the tex eqns below.


3. The attempt at a solution

Since the wheel is rolling at a steady velocity V, we can consider the inertial frame with origin at the center of the wheel. At a displacement \theta from the vertical, the forces on the pebble are the following:
  1. a normal force N exerted by the wheel in the outward radial direction
  2. gravitational force mg in the downward vertical direction
  3. frictional force \mu N in the counterclockwise tangential direction. This is just N since \mu=1.

Also, up until the point that the pebble slips, we know:
<br /> N - mg cos(\theta) = -m \omega^2 r<br />
or
<br /> N = mg cos(\theta) -m \omega^2 r<br />

In other words, the centripetal force equals N minus the inward radial component of mg.

The pebble slips when the tangential component of force in the clockwise direction exceeds the tangential component of force in the counterclockwise direction. This is because the tangential acceleration (angular acceleration + coriolis term) equals 0 in our inertial frame. So, we want to find \theta such that:


mgsin(\theta) &gt; N, or, plugging in for N from above,
mgsin(\theta) &gt; mg cos(\theta) -m \omega^2 r
mgsin(\theta) - mgcos(\theta) &gt; -m \omega^2 r
g (sin(\theta) - cos(\theta)) &gt; - \omega^2 r
g (\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} sin(\theta) - \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} cos(\theta)) &gt; - \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \omega^2 r
\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} cos(\theta) - \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} sin(\theta) &lt; \frac{\omega^2 r}{g \sqrt{2}}
cos(\pi / 4)cos(\theta) - sin(\pi / 4)sin(\theta) &lt; \frac{\omega^2 r}{g \sqrt{2}}
cos(\theta + \pi / 4) &lt; \frac{\omega^2 r}{g \sqrt{2}}
cos(\theta + \pi / 4) &lt; \frac{v^2}{rg \sqrt{2}}
\theta + \pi / 4 &lt; arccos(\frac{v^2}{rg \sqrt{2}})
\theta &lt; arccos(\frac{v^2}{rg \sqrt{2}}) - \pi / 4
 

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