Root Test Question: Baby Rudin Example 3.35

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The forum discussion centers on applying the root test to the series presented in Baby Rudin Example 3.35, specifically the series \(\frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{2^2} + \frac{1}{3^2} + \ldots\). Participants clarify the limit superior calculations, noting that the correct limit for odd \(n\) is \(\limsup{\sqrt[n]{a_n}} = \lim{\sqrt[2n]{2^{-n}}}\). The confusion arises from a misinterpretation of Rudin's notation, particularly regarding the handling of the terms for odd and even \(n\). The discussion concludes that bounding the series can also establish convergence, reinforcing the necessity of understanding the limit calculations.

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Homework Statement



Consider the following series (Baby Rudin Example 3.35):
\frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{2^2} + \frac{1}{3^2} + \frac{1}{2^3} + \frac{1}{3^3} + \ldots

We have to apply the root test.

2. The attempt at a solution
\sqrt[n]{2^{-\frac{n+1}{2}}} = \sqrt[2n]{2^{-(n+1)}} for n odd; (1)
\sqrt[n]{3^{-\frac{n}{2}}} = \sqrt[2n]{3^{-n}} for n even.

Letting n\to\infty we have 1/\sqrt{3} and 1/\sqrt{2} for inferior and superior limits. This result is equivalent to that one of Rudin, however, he states, that for n odd, we have \sqrt[2n]{2^{-n}} in Eq. (1).

What is the obvious thing that I'm still missing? Thanks for responses in advance!
 
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camillio said:

Homework Statement



Consider the following series (Baby Rudin Example 3.35):
\frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{2^2} + \frac{1}{3^2} + \frac{1}{2^3} + \frac{1}{3^3} + \ldots

We have to apply the root test.

2. The attempt at a solution
\sqrt[n]{2^{-\frac{n+1}{2}}} = \sqrt[2n]{2^{-(n+1)}} for n odd; (1)
\sqrt[n]{3^{-\frac{n}{2}}} = \sqrt[2n]{3^{-n}} for n even.

Letting n\to\infty we have 1/\sqrt{3} and 1/\sqrt{2} for inferior and superior limits. This result is equivalent to that one of Rudin, however, he states, that for n odd, we have \sqrt[2n]{2^{-n}} in Eq. (1).

What is the obvious thing that I'm still missing? Thanks for responses in advance!

That's not what Rudin says. The only thing that Rudin says is

\limsup{\sqrt[n]{a_n}}=\lim{\sqrt[2n]{2^{-n}}}

which is certainly true. I think you may be confused because he left out a small step

\limsup{\sqrt[n]{a_n}} = \lim{\sqrt[2n]{2^{-(n+1)}}} = \lim{\sqrt[2n]{2^{-1}}\sqrt[2n]{2^{-n}}}=\lim{\sqrt[2n]{2^{-n}}}
 
I don't have the Rudin text available to me.

However, can't we bound the series above to establish convergence by
\sum(1/2^k + 1/2^k) from k = 1 to oo?
If necessary, find a way to reindex the given series to match.
The bounding series then becomes,
\sum(2 * 1/2^k) from k = 1 to oo,

Maybe that bypasses, what we're supposed to be learning.
 
micromass said:
I think you may be confused because he left out a small step

Thank you, I was confused with this. I had the same idea, but I didn't see the reason for solving the limit for only one part of the formula. Of course, the equality of RHS and LHS is obvious. But that is the pure math and the Rudin's (correct) way :-)
 
nickalh: of course, there are several possible ways how to solve it, but I was confused by the Rudin's way.
 

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