Ross chapter 7 The game of clue

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The problem involves the game of Clue, where participants must determine the number of possible solutions based on the selection of suspects, weapons, and rooms. The original poster presents a series of questions related to calculating possible outcomes and expected values based on card distributions among players.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the total number of combinations possible in the game and how to express the variable X in relation to the number of suspects, weapons, and rooms. There is also consideration of the expected value and the implications of card distributions among players.

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Some participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the representation of variables and the calculation of probabilities. There is a recognition of the complexity involved in determining the expected value, with various approaches being suggested without a clear consensus on the correct method.

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There is uncertainty regarding the number of players involved in the game, which affects the calculations. The original poster's assumptions about the card distributions and the definitions of variables are also under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement

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The game of Clue involves six subjects, 6 weapons and 9 rooms. One of each is randomly chosen and the object of the game is to guess the three.[/B]
a) how many solutions are possible
In one version of the game, after the selection is made, each of the players is then randomly given three of the remaining cards. S, W, R represent suspects weapons, and rooms in the set of three cards given to a specified player. lex x denote the number of solutions that are possible after that player observes their three cards
b) Express X in terms of S,W,R
c) Find E[x]

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Not sure n * k / N . The mean of a hypergeometric maybe?

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a) is 324 since 6*6*9
b) is X= (6-S, W-6, R-9)...I think.
c) is where it gets tricky. The back of the book said the answer was 199.6. I think it's Hypergeometric. How many players am I working with here? It doesn't say... I mean, if i have 3 of them, so...in the first there are 5*5*8 which is approx above, but that can't be it. is it there are 18 cards and you take three and then do a combination of what they could be and that is probability and you multiply by whatever remains by the combination of whatever it can be?
 
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After reading the question a few times, it seems like you are choosing 3 cards, so you have options of SSS, WWW, RRR, ..., SWR.
Each combination has a probability associated with it and a number of solutions based on the set of 3 cards.
Find the expected value as ##\sum_{I=1}^n p(X)*X ##.
 
RUber said:
After reading the question a few times, it seems like you are choosing 3 cards, so you have options of SSS, WWW, RRR, ..., SWR.
I think the OP is using S, W, R to represent the number of cards of each type, so S+W+R=3.
mattclgn said:
b) is X= (6-S, W-6, R-9)...I think.
Isn't X a count of possible solutions, not a vector? Also, I believe you mean 6-W etc.
 
When I worked this out the first time, I failed to account for the prior draw of the real solution from each of the categories and got 198.75.
The total number ways to draw the 3 cards would be 18C3, and the number of ways to draw any combination would be (5CS)*(5CW)*(8CR). Using this, I was able to validate the book's solution you posted above.
 

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