Rotating Cone and instantaneous axis of rotation

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The discussion centers on the mechanics of a cone rolling without slipping on a plane, specifically the concept of the instantaneous axis of rotation. The user is trying to determine the instantaneous angular velocity vector, \omega, and initially considers contributions from both the cone's vertical rotation and its spin. However, the solution indicates that the angular velocity has only an x-component, as the line of contact acts as the instantaneous axis of rotation, making it stationary. This means that point P's velocity is solely related to the rotation about this axis. Understanding this concept is crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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Homework Statement


Hi! I'm trying to solve a simple problem of mechanics, but I'm getting the wrong results and I suppose I don't yet grasp the concept of instantaneous axis of rotation very well.
So, a cone (see attached picture) is rolling without slipping on a plane. Vp is point P linear velocity on the laboratory frame with its origin on the cone's apex. I must choose "z" as the vertical axis and, instantaneously, "x" along the line of contact.
I have to find the instantaneous angular velocity vector \omega.

Homework Equations


\omega = \Omega + \omega _s
\Omega = \frac{v_p}{hcos(\alpha)}
\omega _s = \frac{v_p}{R}

The Attempt at a Solution


My first thought was that there are 2 contributions for the angular velocity: \Omega pointing upwards and relates to the rotation of the cone around the vertical axis going through the origin and \omega _s which is the spin angular velocity of the cone. I simply decomposed the spin ang.vel in its x and z components and got
\omega = (\omega_s cos(\alpha))e_x+(\omega_s sin(\alpha) + \Omega)e_z
And I thought that was it.
The solution states that the angular velocity only has component along x: \omega = (\omega,0,0) and I'm failing to see how. Is the line of contact an instantaneous axis of rotation? And what does that mean for this problem?

Thank you in advance
 

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RicardoMP said:

Homework Statement


Hi! I'm trying to solve a simple problem of mechanics, but I'm getting the wrong results and I suppose I don't yet grasp the concept of instantaneous axis of rotation very well.
So, a cone (see attached picture) is rolling without slipping on a plane. Vp is point P linear velocity on the laboratory frame with its origin on the cone's apex. I must choose "z" as the vertical axis and, instantaneously, "x" along the line of contact.
I have to find the instantaneous angular velocity vector \omega.

Homework Equations


\omega = \Omega + \omega _s
##\Omega = \frac{v_p}{hcos(\alpha)}##
##\omega _s = \frac{v_p}{R}##

The Attempt at a Solution


My first thought was that there are 2 contributions for the angular velocity: \Omega pointing upwards and relates to the rotation of the cone around the vertical axis going through the origin and \omega _s which is the spin angular velocity of the cone. I simply decomposed the spin ang.vel in its x and z components and got
\omega = (\omega_s cos(\alpha))e_x+(\omega_s sin(\alpha) + \Omega)e_z
And I thought that was it.
The solution states that the angular velocity only has component along ##\ x: \omega = (\omega,0,0)\ ## and I'm failing to see how. Is the line of contact an instantaneous axis of rotation? And what does that mean for this problem?

Thank you in advance
I'm looking for the attached picture.
 
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SammyS said:
I'm looking for the attached picture.
I'm so sorry! I completely forgot to attach it!
 
RicardoMP said:
The solution states that the angular velocity only has component along x: \omega = (\omega,0,0) and I'm failing to see how. Is the line of contact an instantaneous axis of rotation?
Yes. That line of the cone is in contact with the plane and is not slipping, therefore it is instantaneously stationary. That makes it the instantaneous axis of rotation.
Concentrate on the point P. You know its velocity, and you know it is rotating about that axis.
 
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