Rotation and Angular Momentum: Solving for thrust of a rocket

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a solid bar with attached rockets, focusing on the calculation of thrust based on rotational dynamics and angular momentum. The problem includes parameters such as the dimensions of the bar, its weight, and the rotation rate achieved after firing the rockets.

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  • Participants discuss the moment of inertia and its relation to torque and angular momentum. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between angular velocity and angular momentum, and questions arise about how to calculate thrust based on the given parameters.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between torque, angular momentum, and thrust, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps to take in solving for thrust.

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Participants are navigating through the definitions and relationships of physical quantities involved, such as moment of inertia, angular momentum, and thrust, while also addressing potential confusion regarding the calculations needed to derive thrust from the given data.

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1. A solid bar of length L = 0.5m and with W = 0.1m weighs 2kg. It also has two constant-thrust rockets attached on either end. Each rocket is small enough to be considered a point mass of 0.25kg. If the bar is initially at rest and in two seconds after the rockets are fired it achieves a rotation rate of 1000rpm, determine the thrust of each rocket.



Homework Equations


torque = I * angular acceleration
I = (1/12)*(L^2+W^2)*M



3. I found I, angular momentum, to be 0.0542. I am not sure what to do from there.
 
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I is moment of inertia, not angular momentum.

What equation do you know that relates torque and angular momentum (which is usually written L)?
 
Correct my apology, I is moment of inertia. An equation I know that relates torque with angular momentum 'L' is:

torque = dL/dt = d(Iw)/dt

The acceleration changed from 0 to 1000rpm in 2 seconds. and L=Iw, which is the angular velocity times the moment of inertia. I'm confused as to what to do
 
It's not acceleration that changed from 0 to 1000rpm in 2 seconds :wink:

Think about this: what else can you calculate from that 1000rpm figure?
 
So, angular velocity changes from 0 to 1000rpm in 2 seconds, and we know I. I can therefore solve for angular momentum, right? Couldn't you also integrate the sum of the moments exerted by each rocket from time t to 0? I still am not sure how to translate all of this to the thrust of each rocket.
 
engineer08 said:
So, angular velocity changes from 0 to 1000rpm in 2 seconds, and we know I. I can therefore solve for angular momentum, right?
Right, try that.

By the way, you do know what kind of physical quantity thrust is, right?
 
thrust must be in Newtowns (N), presumably? I was pretty certain of that.
 
Yep, just checking.
 

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