Rotation angular velocity of a turntable

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The problem involves a turntable with a block that is shot outward, requiring the calculation of the turntable's angular velocity after the block reaches the edge. The context includes concepts from rotational dynamics and conservation of momentum.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of momentum but questions the accuracy of their calculations. Some participants suggest rechecking the moment of inertia calculations for the turntable, while others propose alternative formulas for the moment of inertia.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the moment of inertia calculations and their implications on the final angular velocity. There are differing interpretations of the correct formula to use, and while some guidance has been offered, no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

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There is mention of potential rounding errors and the need for careful calculation at the final step, indicating that precision is a concern in the problem-solving process.

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I've spent at least an hour trying to figure this out, but can't seem to figure out how to solve this.

1. Homework Statement

A 170g , 30.0-cm-diameter turntable rotates on frictionless bearings at 66.0rpm . A 25.0g block sits at the center of the turntable. A compressed spring shoots the block radically outward along a frictionless groove in the surface of the turntable.

What is the turntable's rotation angular velocity when the block reaches the outer edge?

Homework Equations


Conservation of momentum: Ii*wi = If*wf

The Attempt at a Solution


I(turntable) = Mr^2 = (.170 kg)(.15 m)^2 = 3.825*10^-3 kg m^2
I(block)o = mr^2 = 0
I(block)f = mr^2 = (.025 kg)(.15 m)^2 = 5.265*10^-4 kg m^2
wi = ((66 rpm)(2pi))/60 = 6.91 rad/s
I(turntable+block)f = 3.825*10^-3 + 5.265*10^-4 = 4.3875*10^-3 kg m^2

(3.825*10^-3)(6.91) = (4.3875*10^-3)wf
0.1826 = (4.3875*10^-3)wf
wf = 6.02 rad/s -- wrong

Initially, I tried using conservation of energy, and ended up with 5.52 rad/s. The program told me "not quite" and suggested a rounding error, so I think 5.52 might be close to the right answer, but I can't seem to figure out why I'm not getting it. Any help would be much appreciated!
 
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I think you should recheck the equation of ##I_{turntable}##.
 
Would it just be 1/2*(.170)(.15)? That's what I had at first, but I wasn't sure if that was correct or not.
 
If I use Iturntable = (0.5)(0.17)(0.15)2, I get Iturntable = 1.9125 * 10-3 kg m2. Plugging this in, I get a final answer of 5.42 rad/s. Does this seem right?
 
Believe yourself.
 
By the way, due to the error generated by calculating, recommend you to calculate at the last pace.
You can get the best result.
 

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