Find the angular speed at t=3 seconds

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The problem involves a shaft with an initial angular speed and a time-dependent angular acceleration. The original poster attempts to find the angular speed at a specific time using kinematic equations, which may not be applicable due to the nature of the angular acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the validity of using kinematic equations for a scenario with non-constant angular acceleration. Questions arise about the implications of this non-constancy on the methods used for solving the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants have identified that the angular acceleration is not constant, leading to a consensus that kinematic equations are not suitable for this problem. Guidance has been offered suggesting the use of differential equations instead.

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The original poster expresses confusion over their answer and seeks clarification on the correct approach, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the conditions under which certain equations can be applied.

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Homework Statement


A shaft is turning at 65.0 rad/s at time zero. Thereafter, its angular acceleration is given by α = -10 rad/s 2 - 5t rad/s 3 where t is the elapsed time. (a) Find its angular speed at t = 3.00 s. (b) How far does it turn in the 3.00 s seconds?

t=3 seconds
wi= 65.0 rad/s
α = -10 rad/s 2 - 5t rad/s 3

Homework Equations


Wf=Wi+αt where α is the angular acceleration

The Attempt at a Solution


since α = -10 - 5t (1)
at t= 3 seconds
by substitution in (1):
α= -25 rad/s2

From Kinematic equation:
wf=wi+αt
wf=65-25(3)= -10 rad /sI found a different answer in the solutions so please tell me why my answer is incorrect.
 
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Looks like you tried to solve it by using an equation restricted to constant angular acceleration. Is the angular acceleration constant in this problem? You calculated α at t = 3 s, but that's not the angular acceleration at other instants of time between t = 0 and t = 3 s.
 
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TSny said:
Looks like you tried to solve it by using an equation restricted to constant angular acceleration. Is the angular acceleration constant in this problem?
Yes it isn't constant. So basically i can't use kinematic equations if the acceleration isn't constant??
 
Neon32 said:
Yes it isn't constant. So basically i can't use kinematic equations if the acceleration isn't constant??
Yes. You need to use differential equations w.r.t. time.
 
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cnh1995 said:
Yes. You need to use differential equations w.r.t. time.

Alright. Thanks both of you for the help. Appreciated :)
 

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