Rotation - Minimum force so that the block topple

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Homework Statement


Printed problem text: A uniform cube of side a and mass m rests on a rough horizontal table. A horizontal force f is applied normal to one face at a point directly above the centre of the face, at a height of 3a/4 above the base. The minimum value of f for which the cube begins to tip about an edge is ........... (Assume the cube does not slide).


The Attempt at a Solution



I have worked my brain out but can't work out the problem

the normal force will act through th center of mass right?

if not please some one tell me why !
 
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  • Printed problem text: A uniform cube of side a and mass m rests on a rough horizontal table. A horizontal force f is applied normal to one face at a point directly above the centre of the face, at a height of 3a/4 above the base. The minimum value of f for which the cube begins to tip about an edge is ______ (Assume that the cube does not slide).
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Consider the edge far from the applied force (i.e. the one against the table that it would intuitively tip around) as an axis of rotation...then you can find the torque applied by the force at that point a distance from the axis at an angle (associated with the geometry of the cube). Also, remember gravity would provide another torque at the center of mass, which is also another distance from the axis at a different angle. Hope that helps some.
 
See, there must be a force acting at the bottom which does not allow the cube to slide. However, you do not know its magnitude. So the best option is to calculate torque about the point which does not move. What will be the forces acting? Calculate their torque. Net torque should be just zero such that it tips.

The normal force will not act through the center of the mass.
If it did then- imagine- net torque would be zero and any small amount (even air flow) will tip the cube.:rolleyes:
 
If you could help me solve this problem that'll help me ...

Physics problem: block of mass √3/10 kg on a rough horizontal surface, 1 N force at 30° applied at top right corner A, block 20 cm tall and 20 cm wide with corners B and A, options (A) through centre of mass, (B) through point A, (C) through point B, (D) through a point 5 cm from A.


I can't figure out this problem
 
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  • Printed physics problem: block of mass √3/10 kg on a rough horizontal surface, 1 N force at 30° applied at upper right corner, 20 cm height and 20 cm base with corners B and A, and options (A) through centre of mass, (B) through point A, (C) through point B, (D) through point 5 cm from A.
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okay, let us consider that the normal force is acting through the center of mass. Then the given force acts. As I said in my previous post any amount of force should be enough to tilt the block.
So, the block will tilt(just a bit) and the block will lose contact with ground (except the rightmost edge). Where will the normal force act then?
 
OH yes ... you are right ...

Thanks guys for help ...