Rotation operators on Bloch sphere

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The discussion revolves around the properties and definitions of rotation operators on the Bloch sphere, specifically focusing on the mathematical representation of these operators and their connection to rotations in quantum mechanics. Participants explore the implications of these operators in the context of spinors and quaternion rotations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the presence of the factor of 1/2 in the rotation operators \( R_x(\theta) \), \( R_y(\theta) \), and \( R_z(\theta) \), questioning its origin compared to standard complex number rotations.
  • Another participant suggests that the matrices presented may not correctly represent rotations about three axes and emphasizes the need for clarity on how the matrices were defined.
  • A third participant corrects the representation of \( R_z \) and discusses the relationship between the rotation matrices and spinors, explaining how a 3-D vector can be represented as a complex spinor.
  • Further elaboration is provided on the connection between axis-angle rotations and quaternion rotations, noting that the division by 2 is necessary to account for the properties of quaternions and their representation in unitary matrices.

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Participants express differing views on the correctness of the rotation operator representations and the implications of the factor of 1/2, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

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There are limitations regarding the definitions of the matrices and the assumptions made about their properties, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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Can anyone explain to me why the following operators are rotation operators:
<br /> \begin{align*}R_x(\theta) &amp;= e^{-i\theta X/2}=\cos(\frac{\theta}{2})I-i\sin(\frac{\theta}{2})X=<br /> \left(\!\begin{array}{cc}\cos(\frac{\theta}{2}) &amp; -i\sin(\frac{\theta}{2}) \\ -i\sin(\frac{\theta}{2})&amp; \cos(\frac{\theta}{2}) \end{array}\!\right)\\<br /> R_y(\theta) &amp;= e^{-i\theta Y/2}=\cos(\frac{\theta}{2})I-i\sin(\frac{\theta}{2})Y=\left(\!\begin{array}{cc}\cos(\frac{\theta}{2}) &amp; -\sin(\frac{\theta}{2}) \\ \sin(\frac{\theta}{2})&amp; \:\:\cos(\frac{\theta}{2}) \end{array}\!\right)\\<br /> R_z(\theta) &amp;= e^{-i\theta Z/2}=\cos(\frac{\theta}{2})I-i\sin(\frac{\theta}{2})Z=\left(\!\begin{array}{cc}e^{-i\theta/2} &amp; 0\\ 0 &amp; e^{-i\theta/2} \end{array}\!\right)\end{align*}.

I understand that when considering the 2-d case, any complex number z can be rotated anti-clockwise by an angle \theta with the transformation z\mapsto ze^{i\theta}. This has no factor of 1/2 so where does it come from in the rotation operators?
 
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With the current amount of information the best I can do is giving you a push in the right direction, as I perceive it.

First of, your result is potentially confusing since those matrices don't allow for 3 axes as I see it. Also how did you define the matrices? (forgive me my laziness)
Second, you want to get a little bit of feeling for generating groups from an algebra.
Third, as you are talking about the Bloch Sphere which is S^2 embedded in ##\mathbb{R}^3## you can see what happens.

I would really like to give some context as to how you defined stuff (and what you can conclude from those)

Do it like WannabeNewton, I always enjoy reading his/her threads because they have a great opening post. (First one I found, might not be very suitable for you but important is the amount of text used to describe the problem encountered)
 
You have the wrong R_z. It should be:

R_z(\epsilon) = \left( \begin{array}\\ e^{-i \frac{\epsilon}{2}} &amp; 0 \\ 0 &amp; e^{+i \frac{\epsilon}{2}} \end{array} \right)

Okay, well, the connection between these matrices and rotations is via spinors.

The 3-D vector (x,y,z) can be written in spherical coordinates as:
x = r sin(\theta) cos(\phi)
y = r sin(\theta) sin(\phi)
z = r cos(\theta)

We can combine these three real numbers into a 2-component complex spinor by letting:

\alpha = \sqrt{2r} cos(\frac{\theta}{2}) e^{-i \frac{\phi}{2}}
\beta= \sqrt{2r} sin(\frac{\theta}{2}) e^{+i \frac{\phi}{2}}

Then the significance of those rotation matrices is this:

If \left( \begin{array}\\ \alpha \\ \beta \end{array} \right) is the spinor representation of the vector (x,y,z), then
R_x(\epsilon) \left( \begin{array}\\ \alpha \\ \beta \end{array} \right) is the spinor representation of the vector (x&#039;,y&#039;,z&#039;) resulting from rotating (x,y,z) by an angle \epsilon about the x-axis. (and similarly for R_y and R_z).
 
jimmycricket said:
This has no factor of 1/2 so where does it come from in the rotation operators?

The division by 2 has to do with how axis-angle rotations get converted into quaternion rotations. Quaternions have the property that ##q## and ##-q## represent the same rotation, so to avoid ending up back where you started half-way through you need to cut the speed in half. 2x2 unitary matrices are isomorphic to unit quaternions (i.e. the ones used for rotation), plus a phase factor, and thus have the same quirk.

When working with unitary matrices you can get rid of the factor of 2, though. You just apply a phase correction. You end up with something like ##U(\hat{v}, \theta)=\frac{1}{2} I (1+e^{is \theta})−\frac{1}{2} s\hat{v}σ(1−e^{is \theta})##. The main issue is that you're forced to choose ##s = \pm 1##, and no matter how you pick it you're forced to introduce a discontinuity in the phase as the rotation axis is changed. Also it's not longer the case that you're just exponentiating ##e^{i \sigma \hat{v} \theta}##. On the other hand, you actually go from ##I## to ##X## and back, instead of ##iX##... so it's a mixed bag.
 
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