Rotational dynamics with constant CM velocity

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The discussion revolves around a problem in rotational dynamics, specifically focusing on a cylinder moving with constant center of mass velocity and the concept of rolling without slipping. Participants are exploring the relationships between forces, torques, and kinematic aspects of the motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze forces and torques acting on the cylinder but expresses uncertainty about the next steps. They raise questions about the direction of static friction in relation to translational and rotational motion. Other participants suggest focusing on kinematics and the geometric relationships involved in rolling without slipping.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some suggesting a shift in focus from forces to kinematic relationships. There is a recognition of the importance of understanding the concept of rolling without slipping, and hints regarding the instantaneous center of rotation have been provided.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the original poster's free body diagram is missing certain forces, but they indicate that these omissions may not significantly impact the current discussion. The emphasis is on conceptual understanding rather than detailed force analysis.

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Hey PF!

Homework Statement


I've attached the problem to this post along with my free body diagram.

Homework Equations


Moment of inertia of a cylinder: 1/2MR^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the cylinder is moving at a constant velocity and is not slipping, ƩF = 0. For the torques around the instantaneous axis of rotation, we can see that Ʃt = -(1.2 m)(Ft1) - (0.4m)(Ft2). However, I'm not sure how to proceed from here, and also have a few conceptual questions related to rolling without slipping. In which direction does the force due to static friction act in these problems? Does it act in such a way that it opposes the translational motion of the object in question or does it act to oppose rotational motion?

EDIT: Just realized that I forgot Fn and Fg on my free body diagram, but they're not terribly pertinent to this problem anyway.
 

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Hey trulyfalse!

My suggestion is to forget the forces and torques. This is just a kinematics problem.
 
trulyfalse said:
and also have a few conceptual questions related to rolling without slipping.


That question is crucial: What does rolling without slipping mean? How is the linear velocity of the centre related to the angular velocity of rolling ?

TSny is right, this is a pure kinematic problem.


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trulyfalse said:
have a few conceptual questions related to rolling without slipping. In which direction does the force due to static friction act in these problems? Does it act in such a way that it opposes the translational motion of the object in question or does it act to oppose rotational motion?
As others have posted, you don't need to worry about forces here, just the geometry. (Hint: the instantaneous centre of rotation of a rolling wheel is the point of contact with the surface.)
But to answer your question about friction, it acts to oppose relative motion of the surfaces in contact. For a car accelerating forwards, the driving wheels, if there were no friction, would spin on the road, so the friction there acts forwards from the road onto the wheels (pushing the car along). The idling wheels, were there no friction, would slide along without turning, so the friction there acts backwards, causing those wheels to rotate faster.
 

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