Rotational Energy, Moment of Inertia Problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to rotational energy and moment of inertia, specifically involving the Crab Nebula and a neutron star. The original poster seeks to find the moment of inertia of the neutron star based on its energy loss and rotational characteristics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the moment of inertia using the relationship between kinetic energy and power, but expresses uncertainty about their calculations. Some participants question the application of derivatives and the use of the chain rule in the context of a time-dependent period.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights into the mathematical approach and clarifying concepts related to derivatives. There is a recognition of potential errors in the original poster's reasoning, particularly regarding the treatment of the period as a function of time.

Contextual Notes

There is a discussion about the increasing period of the neutron star and its implications for the calculations. Participants note that the derivative of the period is dimensionless, which raises questions about the original poster's assumptions and calculations.

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Homework Statement



Energy is released by the Crab Nebula at a rate of about 5×10^31W, about 105 times the rate at which the sun radiates energy. The Crab Nebula obtains its energy from the rotational kinetic energy of a rapidly spinning neutron star at its center. This object rotates once every 0.0331 s, and this period is increasing by 4.22×10^−13s for each second of time that elapses.

a) If the rate at which energy is lost by the neutron star is equal to the rate at which energy is released by the nebula, find the moment of inertia of the neutron star.


Homework Equations



KE = Iw^2 , w = 2pi/ T , P = dE/dT

The Attempt at a Solution



KE = Iw^2 , w = 2pi/ T , so KE = 1/2 I 4 pi^2 T^-2
take the derivative of that i get P = -4 I pi^2 T^-3
set it equal to -5×10^31
solve for I and i got 4.59*10^25 which is wrong :(
help please, thanks
 
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Hmm, as far as I know, power is dE/dt, not dE/dT. The period T is itself a function of time in this problem, T(t), so when you take the derivative of K(t), you must use the chain rule (the derivative in your answer attempt is missing the required extra factor of T'(t)).
 
I actually solved a quite similar problem last semester in my astrophysics course, maybe that will help you:

My problem was like this: given that ##\tau = 33## ms and ##\Delta \tau = 1.3 \cdot 10^{-5} s/year##, and given the mass ##M = 1.44 M_{sun}## and the radius ##R = 12 km##, we calculate

$$
E_{rot} = \frac{1}{2} I_{sphere} \omega^2 = \frac{1}{2} \frac{2}{5} M R^2 \omega^2 = \frac{1}{5} M R^2 \frac{4 \pi^2}{\tau^2}, \quad using \quad \omega = 2\pi f = 2 \pi \frac{1}{\tau}
$$
$$
E_{rot} = 2.9888 \cdot 10^{42} J
$$
$$
\Rightarrow \frac{\Delta E_{rot}}{s} = \frac{4}{5} M R^2 \pi^2 \left( \frac{1}{\tau_1} - \frac{1}{\tau_2} \right), \quad where \quad \tau_2 = \tau + \Delta \tau = \tau_1 + \Delta \tau
$$
Now we use that ##E_{rot}## must be equal to ##E_{pot}## (I think that was Virial's theorem)
$$
E_{rot}=\frac{\omega^2}{2} \frac{2}{5} M R^2 \overset{!}{=} \frac{M^2 G}{R} \frac{3}{5} = E_{pot}
$$
$$
\rightarrow \omega_{max} = \sqrt{\frac{3 M G}{R^3}} \approx 15180 s^{-1}
$$
 
slider142 said:
Hmm, as far as I know, power is dE/dt, not dE/dT. The period T is itself a function of time in this problem, T(t), so when you take the derivative of K(t), you must use the chain rule (the derivative in your answer attempt is missing the required extra factor of T'(t)).


So T'(t) is the increasing period 4.22×10^−13s?
 
chongkuan123 said:
So T'(t) is the increasing period 4.22×10^−13s?

Right. :) I assume the problem intends T(0) = 0.0331 s and T'(0) = 4.22x10^-13.
 
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slider142 said:
Right. :) I assume the problem intends T(0) = 0.0331 s and T'(0) = 4.22x10^-13 s.
... except that T' is dimensionless.
 
haruspex said:
... except that T' is dimensionless.

Good point, that!
 

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