Rotational invariance in d=2+1 dimensions (Cherns-Simons term)

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The discussion revolves around the concept of rotational invariance in 2+1 dimensions, specifically in the context of the Chern-Simons term and its implications for the invariance of certain integrals involving the antisymmetric tensor. Participants are exploring the nature of coordinate transformations and the distinction between spatial rotations and boosts.

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify whether rotational invariance applies only to spatial coordinates and seeks confirmation on their coordinate transformation for a 90-degree rotation. They also inquire about generalizing this transformation.
  • Some participants question the nature of the fields being transformed and discuss the representation of the rotation group, suggesting that the transformation laws depend on the specific fields involved.
  • Others suggest considering the transformation of the partial derivative and how it relates to the invariance being demonstrated.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of rotational invariance and the transformations involved. There is a recognition that the original poster's intuition may be correct, and guidance has been offered regarding the distinction between spatial rotations and boosts. Multiple interpretations of the transformation laws are being explored.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of Lorentz invariance and its implications for the Chern-Simons action, with specific attention to how different fields transform under rotations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their initial steps in the transformation process.

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Hi, this is probably a stupid question, but, does rotational invariance in ##d=2+1## mean to only rotate the spatial coordinates and not the time.

I mean bascially I want to show that ## \int d^3 x \epsilon^{\mu\nu\rho}A_{\mu}\partial_{\nu}A_{\rho} ##, yes epsilon the antisymmetric tensor, is invaraint under rotation.

Before I write out all the terms incorrectly I'd like to make sure my ##x^u## coordinate transformations are right. So, the convention is to rotate anti-clockwise right?, so in 2-d I would have , for a 90 degree rotation,

##x \to -y , y \to -x ##?

(How do I generalise actually, to all rotations, instead of just showing it specifically for this 90 degrees. )

many thanks.

e.g considering parity i have

##x^0 \to x^0 , x^1 \to -x^1 , x^2 \to x^2 , ## and therefore ## A_0 \to A_0, A_1 \to -A_1. A_2 \to A^2.##, and I can finish it off to show it's not invariant. Just want to make sure my first step for rotation is correct. many thanks.
 
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It depends on the field you're transforming. I would say that rotation invariance is meant to be spatial rotations(rotations that involve time are usually called boosts). As for how to transform your field in general, it depends on the representation of the group. By the notation I would assume that this is vector representation(but I can't be sure), so in that case the field would transform as:
$$A^\mu = \Lambda^\mu_{\hphantom{\mu}\nu}A^\nu$$
Where ##\Lambda## is Lorentz matrix for rotations defined with angle as a parameter. In general the law of transformation is defined within theory, by inspecting the definition of the fields you're working with - not every variable has the same law, there can be different representations of the rotation group.
 
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It depends on the field you're transforming. I would say that rotation invariance is meant to be spatial rotations(rotations that involve time are usually called boosts). As for how to transform your field in general, it depends on the representation of the group. By the notation I would assume that this is vector representation(but I can't be sure), so in that case the field would transform as:
$$A^\mu = \Lambda^\mu_{\hphantom{\mu}\nu}A^\nu$$
Where ##\Lambda## is Lorentz matrix for rotations defined with angle as a parameter. In general the law of transformation is defined within theory, by inspecting the definition of the fields you're working with - not every variable has the same law, there can be different representations of the rotation group.
right so how would i go about showing explicit invariance using a matrix represtation? in compared to the above say.

the partial derivative would also transform wouldn't it?
 
Your intuition seems correct. If you're looking at the Chern-Simons action, then the ##A_{\mu}##'s transform as vectors, and ##\partial_{\mu}## transforms inversely to a vector. In application to quantum Hall systems (since I know you're looking at Tong's notes), I'd usually say that "rotational invariance" refers only to spatial coordinates. But in this example, it seems simple enough to prove full (orthochronous) Lorentz invariance, and then rotations will follow trivially. Then you can investigate parity/time-reversal separately.
 

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