Rotational Kinematics? Revolutions of a propeller?

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The problem involves an airplane engine that starts from rest and reaches an angular speed of 420 revolutions per minute after 2 seconds, with constant angular acceleration. The goal is to determine how many revolutions the propeller undergoes during this time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to convert angular speed from revolutions per minute to radians per second and question the correct equations to use for angular acceleration and displacement.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on the necessary conversions and equations, while others are exploring different interpretations of the calculations. There is a mix of attempts to clarify the process and verify results, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the final answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the units of angular speed and the correct application of kinematic equations. There is also mention of the need to convert between radians and revolutions.

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Homework Statement


An airplane engine starts from rest; and 2 seconds later, it is rotating with an angular speed of 420 rev/min. If the angular acceleration is constant, how many reovlutions does the propeller undergo during this time?


Homework Equations


\theta = \omega 0 t +1/2 \alpha t^2

\alpha = \Delta \omega / \Delta



The Attempt at a Solution


I thought that if by converting rev/s to rad/s I could use the angular acceleration to somehow find the number of revolutions made in 2 seconds. But I'm not sure if this requires converting, or even if I am on the right track with the angular acceleration.



 
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1. to do your calculations, you do require converting from rev/m to rad/s
2. what equation relates angular velocity to angular acceleration and time?
 
1) So, 420 rev/s would be 840(pi). (I can't find the Pi character) because 1 rev=2(pi) rad. Correct?

2) The equation should be \omega = \omega 0 + \alpha t
 
JHCreighton said:
1) So, 420 rev/s would be 840(pi). (I can't find the Pi character) because 1 rev=2(pi) rad. Correct?

Your question says 420 rev/m (revolutions per minute), not 420rev/s.
you first need to convert 420 rev/m to rev/s

2) The equation should be \omega = \omega 0 + \alpha t
correct,
you are given enough information to calculate angular acceleration.

now, you can use your angular displacement equation to calculate the number of radians rotated in 2 seconds.

you can then convert radians to revolutions.
 
OK, so let's see. 420 rev/MIN is 7 rev/s, which is 44 rad/s. Rearranging the kinematic equation to be \alpha = vf /t and substituting, I get the angular acceleration to be 22 rad/s^2. Then, if the initial velocity is 0 rad/s, the final velocity is again 44 rad/s. This converted to rev/s is 44/2(pi), which equals 7 revolutions. I think I took the long way around to get here, but does this seem like the correct process? Or at least it lead to the correct answer?
 
after you find your angular acceleration, (22rad/s^2). You need to find your angular displacement. (Remember, angular displacement is the number of radians the propeller turns)

so no, 7 revolutions is not the correct answer.
 
Jeez, this problem has just worked me over, and for no good reason. OK, simply substituting everything into the angular displacement equation, then converting back to revolutions, I get 14 rev. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the help, especially since you took the time to go step by step with me, without just tossing out everything I needed at once.
My sincerest thanks,
JHCreighton
 
sorry, 7 revolutions was the correct answer. I didn't do the math, I just looked at what you were saying.. But if you do the math
--
wf^2 = wi^2 + 2⍺θ
rearrange for θ

OR

θf = θi + Wit + ½⍺t^2
rearrange for θ
--

θ turns out to be 44radians = 7 revolutions =p
 

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