Rotational kinetic energy with no friction

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The discussion centers on calculating the distance a 17.0 kg mass must fall on Mars to impart 200.0 J of kinetic energy to a rotating drum, given Mars' gravitational acceleration of 3.71 m/s². The calculated distance is 15.8 m. Additionally, participants are seeking to determine the speed of the mass at the moment the drum gains this kinetic energy. Key equations include the conservation of energy principle, where potential energy (mgh) equals the sum of rotational and translational kinetic energy.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of gravitational potential energy (mgh)
  • Familiarity with rotational dynamics and kinetic energy equations
  • Knowledge of the relationship between linear and angular velocity (v=omega*r)
  • Basic principles of conservation of energy
NEXT STEPS
  • Calculate the linear speed of the 17.0 kg mass using the equation for kinetic energy
  • Explore the effects of different gravitational forces on energy transfer systems
  • Investigate the implications of friction in rotational systems
  • Review the principles of rotational inertia and its impact on kinetic energy
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Physics students, engineers designing mechanical systems, and anyone interested in the dynamics of rotational motion and energy transfer in varying gravitational fields.

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Homework Statement



Engineers are designing a system by which a falling mass m imparts kinetic energy to a rotating uniform drum to which it is attached by thin, very light wire wrapped around the rim of the drum. There is no appreciable friction in the axle of the drum, and everything starts from rest. This system is being tested on earth, but it is to be used on Mars, where the acceleration due to gravity is 3.71 m/s^2. In the Earth tests, when m is set to 17.0 kg and allowed to fall through 6.00 m, it gives 200.0 J of kinetic energy to the drum.

a. If the system is operated on Mars, through what distance would the 17.0-kg mass have to fall to give the same amount of kinetic energy to the drum?
- I figured out this answer to be 15.8 m. I just can't seem to figure out this next part:

b. How fast would the 17.0-kg mass be moving on Mars just as the drum gained 200.0 J of kinetic energy?

Homework Equations



v=omega*r
Potential energy = Kinetic rotational + kinetic linear
mgh = rotational + translation kinetic energy

The Attempt at a Solution



Kinetic energy = potential energy
mgh= .200
For Mars, replace 9.8 with 3.71.

Can't seem how to put everything together, haven't been able to come up with the right answer according to mastering physics.
 
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Homework Statement



Engineers are designing a system by which a falling mass m imparts kinetic energy to a rotating uniform drum to which it is attached by thin, very light wire wrapped around the rim of the drum. There is no appreciable friction in the axle of the drum, and everything starts from rest. This system is being tested on earth, but it is to be used on Mars, where the acceleration due to gravity is 3.71 m/s^2. In the Earth tests, when m is set to 17.0 kg and allowed to fall through 6.00 m, it gives 200.0 J of kinetic energy to the drum.

a. If the system is operated on Mars, through what distance would the 17.0-kg mass have to fall to give the same amount of kinetic energy to the drum?
- I figured out this answer to be 15.8 m. I just can't seem to figure out this next part:

b. How fast would the 17.0-kg mass be moving on Mars just as the drum gained 200.0 J of kinetic energy?

Homework Equations



v=omega*r
Potential energy = Kinetic rotational + kinetic linear
mgh = rotational + translation kinetic energy

The Attempt at a Solution



Kinetic energy = potential energy
mgh= .200
For Mars, replace 9.8 with 3.71.

Can't seem how to put everything together, haven't been able to come up with the right answer according to mastering physics.

Think about conservation of energy. Where is the energy coming from? If the drum ends up with 200 J of it, where did the rest go?
 

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