Royal Air Force to kickstart Aerospace career

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The discussion revolves around the potential career paths for a final-year undergraduate Mechanical Engineering student interested in the Aeronautical field, particularly considering joining the Royal Air Force (RAF) and pursuing further education. Participants explore the value of military service in the UK job market and alternative options for employment in aerospace.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about limited job options in South Africa's Aeronautical field and contemplates joining the RAF while studying for a Master's degree part-time.
  • Another participant suggests that military service is highly regarded in the US job market, indicating it demonstrates discipline and dedication, and believes it could be beneficial in the UK as well.
  • Some participants note that military experience may be particularly advantageous for jobs in the defense industry.
  • Contrasting views emerge regarding the perception of military service in the UK, with one participant arguing that the RAF does not necessarily equate to expertise in aircraft design, suggesting a full-time MSc might be more beneficial.
  • Another participant mentions that EU citizenship could facilitate working in the UK, but questions whether RAF roles would primarily involve maintenance rather than design or research.
  • There are suggestions that pursuing a full-time MSc followed by a PhD may be a more suitable path for those interested in aircraft design and research.
  • Concerns are raised about the aerospace job market in Australia, with one participant stating that many domestic aerospace graduates end up seeking opportunities abroad.
  • Some participants emphasize that if the goal is to work in defense-related industries, military experience could be a valuable asset.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the value of military service in the UK job market and the best educational path to take. There is no consensus on whether joining the RAF is beneficial or whether pursuing a full-time MSc is a better option.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight various assumptions regarding the job market, the role of military experience, and the educational requirements for careers in aerospace, but these remain unresolved and are subject to individual perspectives.

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I'm about to start my final year of Undergraduate Mechanical Engineering here is South Africa but as far as my options are for jobs in the Aeronautical field (which I'm interested in) they are limited to manufacturing and maintenance.

Because of this I'm thinking of joining the RAF after my Bachelors/Honours and studying a Masters degree part time whilst there to try and make a break into the UK job market.

Will this be beneficial at all? Do employers in the UK look at military service at all or would my time be wasted in this endeavour?

Thanks!
 
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I can't speak for the UK but in the US military service is DEFINITELY highly praised especially when looking for a job as it shows discipline, dedication, and sacrifice, throw a master's on top and you're a shoe in. Being in the Air Force before working in the Aeronautical field is PERFECT. It shows you know what you're working with and have first hand experience with how aircraft handle (assuming you'd be a pilot in the RAF). And as I said before a master's in engineering would be phenomenal in addition. Good luck!
 
It probably helps too if you want to work in defense industry
 
In the UK, I think you'd be better studying for the MSc full time! We don't have a romantic view of the military in the UK - RAF pilots might be able to fly planes but it doesn't mean they know anything about designing them - that's what boffins are for. Also, given the recession, you should look further afield than the UK for jobs, maybe Canada or Australia?
 
I was thinking of joining the RAF as an Engineering Officer not a pilot so that I could use my undergraduate engineering degree?

The reason I looked at the UK is because of my EU citizenship which I'd have thought would make it more accessible than say Canada or Australia.
 
jasonbot said:
I was thinking of joining the RAF as an Engineering Officer not a pilot so that I could use my undergraduate engineering degree?

The reason I looked at the UK is because of my EU citizenship which I'd have thought would make it more accessible than say Canada or Australia.

According to this, you need an MSc to get in!

http://www.raf.mod.uk/careers/jobs/engineerofficer.cfm

Also, wouldn't a RAF job "just" be maintenance? That might be an interesting job - but you say you don't want that. If you want to actually design aircraft, or do fundamental research on aeronautical structures, than full time MSc followed by full time PhD, then searching the world for research jobs at university or in industry would surely be the way to go.

That sounds like more fun to me. You could have the RAF as a fallback plan, if you can't get the loans/funding to do something more interesting...

Aim high! The sky's the limit. Sorry couldn't resist :)
 
mal4mac said:
In the UK, I think you'd be better studying for the MSc full time! We don't have a romantic view of the military in the UK - RAF pilots might be able to fly planes but it doesn't mean they know anything about designing them - that's what boffins are for. Also, given the recession, you should look further afield than the UK for jobs, maybe Canada or Australia?

If you are interested in aerospace you don't want to be looking at Australia! Most of our domestic aerospace grads end up either moving overseas if they want to work in aerospace or just find jobs in different fields. If memory serves me correct we are the only country in G20 without a space program. So in short, don't be looking at Australia if you want to work in aerospace (or manufacturing, or r+d...).

Just like the UK we also don't have a romanticised view of the military here. If you want to work in defence related industries then experience in the defence force is a perfect entry point. If you want to work anywhere else then there may be other things that will assist you better in your career progression.
 

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