Rust in test-tubes of HCl FeO or Fe3O4?

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The discussion focuses on the formation of rust in steel nails submerged in hydrochloric acid (HCl) solutions with a pH of 1.5 to 2. The black rust observed, which settles at the bottom of the test-tube, is identified as FeO, while the red rust formed in salt solutions is attributed to Fe2O3. The difference in rust color and attachment to the nails is explained through the presence of Fe2+ ions in HCl, which do not oxidize to Fe3+ as quickly as in saline solutions. This highlights the role of coordination inorganic chemistry and Crystal Field Theory in understanding these reactions.

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rust in test-tubes of HCl FeO or Fe3O4??

I am doing experiments on steel nails in HCl solutions with a pH of about 1.5 - 2.
The rust is black in colour, and is not attached to the surface of the nails. It stays at the bottom of the test-tube. Is this FeO or Fe3O4. Why is it that the rust I am getting in solutions of just salt is not the same colour?. And why is it red and attaching to the nail?
 
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prime-factor said:
I am doing experiments on steel nails in HCl solutions with a pH of about 1.5 - 2.
The rust is black in colour, and is not attached to the surface of the nails. It stays at the bottom of the test-tube. Is this FeO or Fe3O4. Why is it that the rust I am getting in solutions of just salt is not the same colour?. And why is it red and attaching to the nail?

It has a lot to do with coordination inorganic chemistry which depends on quantum mechanical explanations which relate the iron to the " field " of ligands around it to explain the color , you may want to start off with Crystal Field Theory.
 


prime-factor said:
I am doing experiments on steel nails in HCl solutions with a pH of about 1.5 - 2.
The rust is black in colour, and is not attached to the surface of the nails. It stays at the bottom of the test-tube. Is this FeO or Fe3O4. Why is it that the rust I am getting in solutions of just salt is not the same colour?. And why is it red and attaching to the nail?
Maybe with HCl you get more Fe2+ ions, that don't have enough time to be oxidized by air oxygen into Fe3+. In the first case you would get FeO (black), in the second Fe2O3 (red).
 

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