Santa Claus and his trouble on a ladder

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a 10 m ladder leaning against a vertical wall, with Santa Claus climbing it while Mrs. Claus steadies the base. When the ladder forms a 60-degree angle with the ground and the top slides down at 2 m/s, the speed of the bottom of the ladder is calculated to be 1.15 m/s. However, a participant challenges the algebraic manipulation, suggesting the correct speed should be approximately 3.4641 m/s. The importance of verifying calculus results through practical checks is emphasized.

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Homework Statement


Santa Claus and his wife place a 10 m long ladder against a wall (which is vertical). Santa Claus climbs to the top while Mrs. Claus steadies the bottom. However, Mrs. Claus left because she had to give birth, so the ladder began to slip. The ladder kept in contact w/ the wall and the floor (which are perpendicular to each other). At one instance, the angle of the ladder was 60o, and the top end was sliding down the wall w/ a speed of 2 m/s. Calculate the speed of the bottom.


Homework Equations



x2 + y2 = 102

The Attempt at a Solution



i.Length from the top of the ladder to the ground (which I will represent as "y"):

y = 10 sin60 = 8.66 m

ii.Length from the base of the ladder to the wall (which I will represent as "x"):

x = 10 cos60 = 5 m

iii.Differentiate both sides of the equation 'x2 + y2 = 102' w.r.t. t:

(2x)dx/dt + (2y)dy/dt = 0

iv.Isolate for dx/dt:

dx/dt = (-x/y)*dx/dt

v.When x = 5, y = 8.66, dy/dt = 2.
Therefore...

dx/dt = (-5/8.66)*2 = 1.15 m/s

I was just wondering if anyone could verify my steps and make sure it is done correctly. Thanks!
 
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I think your algebras wrong. When you isolated dx/dt, you put the x in the top and the y in the bottom. I'm pretty sure it should be the other way around. I got 3.4641m/s.
 
+1. Sometimes folks forget that calculus results can be checked just like agebra results by choosing a suitably small interval, in this case of say 0.01 sec. The original answer fell substantially short.

At PF are happy to help, but developing the habit of checking your own answer is a great skill to develop! When you are working in a high tech engineering firm and are a lead engineer, who do you ask then?
 

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