Scalar field and spin 1/2 field

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the representation of bosons and fermions in quantum field theory, specifically focusing on scalar fields, spin-1/2 fields, and the properties of different spin fields. The scope includes theoretical concepts and technical explanations related to particle physics.

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  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that bosons are represented by scalar fields and fermions by spin-1/2 fields, noting that bosons have integer spin while fermions have half-integer spin.
  • There is a claim that a scalar field is specifically a spin zero field, while a vector field is needed for spin one and a second rank tensor field for spin two.
  • Participants discuss that a spin-1/2 particle is described using a Lorentz/Dirac Spinor Field, while there are no commonly used fundamental spin-3/2 particles, although representation theory can provide insights into their properties.
  • It is noted that there are different propagators for each spin field due to their distinct Hamiltonians, and different Feynman propagators exist for each free particle species of a given spin.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the classification of bosons and fermions and the nature of scalar and spin-1/2 fields. However, there are nuances regarding the representation of spin-3/2 particles and the specifics of propagators that remain less settled.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions touch on the complexities of spin-3/2 theories and their limitations in perturbation theory, indicating unresolved mathematical and theoretical challenges.

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are bosons represented by a scalar field and fermions represented by a spin 1/2 field or how does it work?
 
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captain said:
are bosons represented by a scalar field and fermions represented by a spin 1/2 field or how does it work?
Bosons have integer spin (0,1,2...). Fermions have half-integer spin (1/2, 3/2, ...)
 
strangerep said:
Bosons have integer spin (0,1,2...). Fermions have half-integer spin (1/2, 3/2, ...)

does that mean a scalar field is a spin zero field or is it an integer spin field?
 
captain said:
does that mean a scalar field is a spin zero field or is it an integer spin field?
A scalar field is a spin zero field. For spin one you'd need a vector field and for spin two you'd need a second rank tensor field.
 
Son Goku said:
A scalar field is a spin zero field. For spin one you'd need a vector field and for spin two you'd need a second rank tensor field.

what about a spin 1/2 or spin 3/2?
 
captain said:
what about a spin 1/2 or spin 3/2?
A spin-1/2 particle is described using a Lorentz/Dirac Spinor Field. There are no “fundamental” spin-3/2 particles so the field that would describe it isn’t used that often. However if you know representation theory you can easily see what the field’s properties are like.

Also there are difficulties in taking spin-3/2 theories further than second order in perturbation theory, which is one of the reasons for the field formalism.
 
is there a different propagator for each spin field?
 
captain said:
is there a different propagator for each spin field?
Yes, there is a different propagator for each field as they have different Hamiltonians. There is also a different Feynman propagator for each free particle species of a given spin.*

*Obviously there are also different propagators for interacting theories, but their analytic forms aren’t known.
 

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