Schools recognizing grade inflations or deflations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the recognition of grade inflation and deflation by educational institutions, particularly in the context of graduate school admissions. Participants explore how different schools' grading practices affect the evaluation of GPAs and the implications for applicants from various institutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the difficulty of achieving a certain GPA can vary significantly between institutions, suggesting that a 3.8 GPA from one school may not be equivalent to a 3.8 GPA from another.
  • One participant argues that physics graduate admissions committees generally do not differentiate between GPAs that are close together (e.g., 3.8 vs. 3.9) due to the variability in grading standards across schools.
  • Another participant mentions that a low GPA (e.g., 2.5) is viewed negatively regardless of the institution, implying that it reflects serious academic issues.
  • Some discuss the impact of institutional branding, suggesting that a lower GPA from a prestigious school (like MIT) may still carry weight due to the school's reputation for rigor.
  • Concerns are raised about the grading practices at different institutions, with some participants questioning the fairness of grading standards and curving practices.
  • One participant expresses frustration about the perception of their own academic performance and its potential impact on graduate school applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the importance of institutional prestige and grading practices in graduate admissions. There is no consensus on how much weight admissions committees place on GPA differences or the impact of school reputation.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the variability in grading standards and practices across institutions, noting that this can complicate comparisons of GPAs. There are also references to specific grading policies at institutions like MIT and Harvard, but these are not universally applicable.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering graduate school, particularly those concerned about their academic performance and the implications of their undergraduate institution's grading practices.

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I know a lot of schools recognize that it is definitely easier to get a 90% in College A than it is in College B. The 96% in College C may only worth 70% in College D.

But my question is, despite knowing these facts, do school really care? Like they know this, but how much do they care?

Now I know, when it comes to "big admissions", a lot of other things are considered.

But when it comes down to it, are all the 3.8GPA people's application cast away and only the 3.9GPA (or 4.0GPA) people's app get a chance to be glanced at?
 
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flyingpig said:
But when it comes down to it, are all the 3.8GPA people's application cast away and only the 3.9GPA (or 4.0GPA) people's app get a chance to be glanced at?

Physics graduate admissions committees generally do not care about the difference between 3.8 and 3.9 because there are just too many differences between schools to make that comparison useful.

They *do* care about the difference between a 2.5 and 3.5. because the belief is that if you got a 2.5, it doesn't matter where you went, you seriously messed up some way and some how.
 
Also some of this comes to branding. For example, if you get a 2.8 from MIT, the fact that you managed to survived MIT at all is going to help you. Also the undergraduate programs often adjust things to fit graduate admissions. MIT for example, grades tests brutally, but they adjust things so that the transcripts says an A, even though the highest test is typically 60-70%. Harvard curves everything so that the grades are rather inflated.
 
I thought prestige of your undergrad institution never even comes to their minds...

What do you mean MIT grade tests brutally? I saw the open course ware exams, they weren't very difficult, do they take serious marks off for like sig figs? I mean compare to the exams in my college...
 
flyingpig said:
I thought prestige of your undergrad institution never even comes to their minds...

It's not so much prestige, but that some schools have reputations for being nastier than others.

What do you mean MIT grade tests brutally? I saw the open course ware exams, they weren't very difficult, do they take serious marks off for like sig figs? I mean compare to the exams in my college...

They take serious marks off for everything.
 
It's not so much prestige, but that some schools have reputations for being nastier than others.

But what if I don't go to a prestige school...? I mean MIT actually CURVES their exams, many don't...like mine.
 
Flyingpig, you have posted a zillion threads with the theme "my grades aren't so good; please tell me this won't hurt my chances for graduate school." I'm sorry, but they will hurt your chances for graduate school.

You need to get your grades up. If you are truly passionate about science, you will find a way.
 

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