Schwarzschild: Energy Conservation at Finite r

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The discussion focuses on the conservation of energy for a massive particle in a Schwarzschild spacetime, specifically analyzing the relationship between the particle's four velocity ##u^\alpha## and four momentum ##p^\alpha##. It establishes that the quantity ##E/m##, representing energy per mass, is conserved as the radial coordinate ##r## approaches infinity. The conversation further explores the implications of energy conservation at finite ##r##, suggesting a general relativity analogue of total energy, which can be derived in the weak field limit by expanding in small quantities to yield the Newtonian total energy, comprising kinetic and potential energy components.

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Let ##u^\alpha## and ##p^\alpha## denote a massive particle's four velocity and four momentum, respectively. Also, let ##\xi^\alpha = (1,0,0,0)## be a time like Killing vector. Since ##g_{00} \xi^0 u^0 = g_{00} p^0 / m = -(1 - 2m / r) E / m## is conserved, if we let ##r \longrightarrow \infty## we have that ##E / m## is conserved. This is the particle's energy per mass. But how to think about that term when ##r## is finite? What's the quantity that's being conserved there?
 
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A GR analogue of total energy in this case. If you look at the weak field limit with non-relativistic velocities relative to ##\xi##, you can expand in small quantities and obtain the Newtonian total energy = kinetic + potential.
 
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