Seagate SSD fails at end of large transfer

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the failure of a Seagate SSD during a large data transfer, exploring potential causes and considerations for using SSDs for backup purposes. Participants share their experiences and hypotheses regarding the failure, including usage patterns, environmental factors, and the reliability of SSD components.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports a complete failure of a Seagate SSD during a large transfer, noting that most data was recoverable.
  • Another participant questions whether the SSD was filled to capacity, suggesting that doing so may lead to quicker failure.
  • A participant clarifies that they rarely used the SSD and did not fill it to capacity.
  • Concerns are raised about the reliability of external SSDs if not powered up regularly, with one participant suggesting this could be a factor in the failure.
  • Heat is proposed as a potential issue, with a participant mentioning a temperature of around 90°F during the transfer.
  • One participant discusses the lore surrounding SSDs, indicating that failures may often be related to the internal controller circuitry rather than the NAND itself.
  • Another participant suggests that the NAND in SSDs is generally reliable, pointing out that small component failures are more common, particularly in Seagate SSDs.
  • There is a recommendation that SSDs may not be the best choice for backup due to their cost-speed trade-off, advocating for having multiple copies even if they are slower.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the reliability of SSDs for backup and the potential causes of the failure, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors that could contribute to SSD failure, including usage patterns, environmental conditions, and component reliability, but do not resolve these issues or provide definitive conclusions.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals considering the use of SSDs for data storage and backup, as well as those experiencing similar issues with external drives.

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The standalone Seagate SSD that I got for backup failed completely toward the end of a massive transfer. Fortunately almost everything I valued was still available elsewhere. I bought a Seagate hard drive to replace it.
 
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jedishrfu said:
Did you try to fill it to capacity?
Never got close to capacity. Rarely used it.
 
Hornbein said:
Rarely used it.

My understanding is that external SSDs don't do well if you don't power them up regularly. Could that be your issue?
 
phinds said:
My understanding is that external SSDs don't do well if you don't power them up regularly. Could that be your issue?
Could be.
 
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Hornbein said:
toward the end of a massive transfer.
Heat, maybe? Insufficient cooling?
 
Rive said:
Heat, maybe? Insufficient cooling?
Maybe 90 F.
 
There is a lot of lore around SSDs, some of it true, some of it once true, and likely some of it never true, However, if the entire drive is bricked, rather than returning errors, odds are that the failure was in the internal controller circuitry.

That said, SSD would not be my choice for backup. SSDs trade cost for speed, and for backup, having two copies, even if slower, usually performs the function better than one.
 
The NAND in SSDs seldom fails. It may be just a small capacitor that shorted or a fuse that blew, and is now preventing the entire board from working. Seagate SSDs are known for small component failures. That doesn't mean you should repair and re-use such drives, but from a data recovery perspective, the NAND seems to fail much less often compared to an SMD capacitor or fuse.
 

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