Search for Senior Undergraduate Text on Lie Theory and Groups

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The discussion centers around the search for suitable texts on Lie Theory and Lie Groups at the senior undergraduate level. Participants share recommendations and personal motivations for studying the subject, exploring both theoretical and practical aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Peter seeks recommendations for a senior undergraduate text on Lie Theory, expressing a desire to understand the blend of algebra, geometry, and analysis in this area.
  • Fallen Angel suggests the Fulton-Harris book and course notes, questioning Peter's purpose for studying Lie Theory.
  • Peter mentions an article about the exceptional Lie Group E8 that sparked his interest in the subject.
  • Euge recommends "Matrix Groups for Undergraduates" by Kristopher Tapp as a foundational text, noting that the Fulton-Harris book is primarily for graduate students but may still be accessible to Peter due to his advanced algebra background.
  • Some participants clarify that the Fulton-Harris book is not a direct recommendation but may still be manageable for Peter if he focuses on specific chapters.
  • One participant indicates they have another representation theory book suitable for senior students but needs time to identify it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the suitability of the Fulton-Harris book for undergraduates, with some suggesting it may be challenging while others believe it can be navigated with an advanced background. There is no consensus on a single recommended text.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved considerations regarding the appropriateness of certain texts for the intended audience, as well as the varying levels of difficulty associated with different chapters of the recommended books.

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I am looking for a good text at senior undergraduate level on Lie Theory, and in particular, Lie Groups ...

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Peter
 
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Fallen Angel said:
Hi Peter,

In math exchange you got a thread like this:

reference request - What's a good place to learn Lie groups? - Mathematics Stack Exchange

You can see Fulton-Harris book here:

http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic1381051.files/fulton-harris-representation-theory.pdf

and a good-loking course notes here:

http://www.jmilne.org/math/CourseNotes/LAG.pdf

What is your purpose studying Lie theory?
Thanks Fallen Angel ... Your post is most helpful ...

My purpose in studying Lie Theory is simply to understand it ... It seems an area that has a wonderful blend of algebra, geometry and analysis ...

My interest was particularly raised recently by an article by Dana Mackenzie in the 2009 booklet "What's Happening in the Mathematical Sciences", about the exceptional Lie Group E8 namely:

"Charting a 248-Dimensional World"

BTW ... Thanks again for your help!

Peter
 
Peter said:
Thanks Fallen Angel ... Your post is most helpful ...

My purpose in studying Lie Theory is simply to understand it ... It seems an area that has a wonderful blend of algebra, geometry and analysis ...

My interest was particularly raised recently by an article by Dana Mackenzie in the 2009 booklet "What's Happening in the Mathematical Sciences", about the exceptional Lie Group E8 namely:

"Charting a 248-Dimensional World"

BTW ... Thanks again for your help!

Peter

Hi Peter,

It looks like you're on the same page as topsquark as far as interests are concerned. This book in the link

Matrix Groups for Undergraduates - Kristopher Tapp - Google Libri

will supply you both with the basics. The Fulton/Harris book is actually intended for a graduate audience (although I've seen the book used for undergraduates) but considering your advanced algebra background, I think you can get through Chapters 1,2,3 and Chapters 7,8,10 with little difficulty.
 
Euge said:
Hi Peter,

It looks like you're on the same page as topsquark as far as interests are concerned. This book in the link

Matrix Groups for Undergraduates - Kristopher Tapp - Google Libri

will supply you both with the basics. The Fulton/Harris book is actually intended for a graduate audience (although I've seen the book used for undergraduates) but considering your advanced algebra background, I think you can get through Chapters 1,2,3 and Chapters 7,8,10 with little difficulty.
Thanks Euge,

Will definitely buy a copy of the Fulton/Harris book, especially since you and Fallen Angel recommend it ...

I have a copy of Tapp and have gone back to it now to see what it says about Lie Groups ... The book should, however, as you indicate, supply some of the basic underpinning ideas ...

Thanks for your guidance and help ...

Peter
 
I didn't actually recommend Fulton's book, but my point was, if you decide to work through this book, you'll probably have little difficulty with the chapters I mentioned. I did say that that book is intended for a graduate audience. I have a book on representation theory that's certainly appropriate for senior level students, but I need time to look for it.
 
Euge said:
I didn't actually recommend Fulton's book, but my point was, if you decide to work through this book, you'll probably have little difficulty with the chapters I mentioned. I did say that that book is intended for a graduate audience. I have a book on representation theory that's certainly appropriate for senior level students, but I need time to look for it.
OK, understand ... Please let let me know about the senior level book when you have had time to form an opinion regarding it ...

Peter
 

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