Self-adjusting orbiting solar shield

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Global warming is acknowledged as a pressing issue due to greenhouse gas accumulation, with concerns raised about waste heat from human activities becoming a significant problem even if emissions are reduced. A proposed solution involves deploying large reflective mirrors in space to divert sunlight, but challenges include managing photon pressure that could destabilize their orbits. Suggestions for stabilizing these mirrors include using rotating slats or angled designs to counteract radiation pressure and maintain a near-L1 position. Discussions also reference Isaac Asimov's insights on population growth and waste heat, emphasizing the need for original sources to understand his views accurately. Overall, the conversation highlights innovative ideas for geoengineering while addressing the complexities of orbital mechanics and climate impacts.
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Solar shield whose rotation cancels out net effects of photon pressure over the course of an orbit
It is widely accepted that global warming caused by accumulating greenhouse gases is happening and, as the late Isaac Asimov pointed out years ago, even if or when this is curbed, if the population remains at similar levels as now then just the waste heat from human activities will eventually be an equally serious and even more intractable problem.

One obvious way to reduce heat is to launch and install in near-Earth space large reflective mirrors to divert some sunlight away from the Earth. These could be either positioned at the L1 Lagrange point or closer in orbit round the Earth. But in either case, assuming the mirrors were large, for example a hundred mile wide disk of ultra-thin silver or the like, there's a problem: photon pressure, which will propel them away from where they need to be!

So (getting to the point) I wondered if it would be possible to design for an "unpowered" orbiting mirror a combination of rotation, possibly involving multiple moving parts, over the course of an orbit such that the photon pressure exerted toward the Earth when the mirror was between the two, or in what might be called the "near half" of its orbit, could be compensated by pressure exerted away from the Earth over the rest of the orbit such that it maintained stable, albeit perturbed, orbits over time.

Perhaps some design involving rotating slats like a steel blind, with offset "guide mirrors" at either end to turn the slats would work, analogous to the guide vane at the top of a windmill to keep it turned into the wind.

This might make a good undergrad physics project, if it hasn't already been done. The design would have to be pretty simple and, if possible, should not rely on powered propulsion (although perhaps a few solar-powered electric motors would be allowed, if that helps or turns out to be indispensable).

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John R Ramsden

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If you place the screen slightly closer to the Sun than L1, could the greater solar gravity not counter the radiation pressure?
 
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Good point, but wouldn't the mirror then be orbiting the Sun slightly faster than the Earth and thus soon drift sideways ahead of it, in the absence of an additional retarding force? But perhaps some arrangement of slightly angled mirrors very close to the L1 point could counteract both the net gravity toward the Sun and the tendency to pull ahead of the Earth.
 
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Looking at the Sun-Earth potential gradient near L1, it feels intuitively correct that it should be possible to maintain a stable position somewhat nearer the Sun, where the towards-Sun gradient is canceled by the force from the reflected light, but it will require some kind of active control.
 
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L1 is a saddle, that falls away towards the Sun on one side and to the Earth on the other, with a higher ridge on each side. It is to be expected that there will be a point, on the sunny side of the ridge, where the changed radial distance balances the radiation pressure. The circumferential slope would need to correct the orbital period, with the screen lagging L1. I wonder if the ½° shadow cone from that point would include the Earth.

Any orbit near L1 will have an unstable equilibrium, so will require some control to maintain position. Variation of the area, or surface orientation of a mirror, could use radiation pressure to maintain the position. With a diagonal mirror, the screen might be better positioned to cast a permanent shadow on the Earth.
 
It's not a stable orbit, but with active control over the mirror orientation, shape, reflectivity, ... you can keep it close to L1, a bit offset towards the Sun to counter the radiation pressure. There is no "tendency to pull ahead of the Earth".

You can probably find a suitable Earth orbit, but it comes with significant downsides: The shield is in front of Earth only for a fraction of the orbit, and when it's elsewhere it has the opposite effect - reflecting some sunlight and emitting infrared radiation, heating Earth.
 
"as the late Isaac Asimov pointed out years ago, even if or when this is curbed, if the population remains at similar levels as now then just the waste heat from human activities will eventually be an equally serious and even more intractable problem."

I'd like to see some data to back that statement up.
 
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bob012345 said:
"as the late Isaac Asimov pointed out years ago, even if or when this is curbed, if the population remains at similar levels as now then just the waste heat from human activities will eventually be an equally serious and even more intractable problem."

I'd like to see some data to back that statement up.
Then go to the horse's mouth rather than characterizations of what Asimov said. There are two Asimov essays on the subject.

http://triumf.info/wiki/pwalden/images/1/18/Asimov_power_of_progression.pdf
http://triumf.info/wiki/pwalden/images/6/6d/The_end.pdf

I found that Asimov is addressing population more than climate. I also see that Asimov's 1971 predictions about 2070's climate are very close to current IPCC estimates.
 
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Then go to the horse's mouth rather than characterizations of what Asimov said. There are two Asimov essays on the subject.

http://triumf.info/wiki/pwalden/images/1/18/Asimov_power_of_progression.pdf
http://triumf.info/wiki/pwalden/images/6/6d/The_end.pdf

I found that Asimov is addressing population more than climate. I also see that Asimov's 1971 predictions about 2070's climate are very close to current IPCC estimates.
I was quoting the OP. That's where the Asimov characterization was. Also, specifically the statement concerning waste heat from human activities.
 
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bob012345 said:
Also, specifically the statement concerning waste heat from human activities.
The explanation is in those two essays. Did you read them?
 
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anorlunda said:
The explanation is in those two essays. Did you read them?
Asimov seems to be saying if the population grows to unimaginably large numbers waste heat would be a problem (among even worse problems). The quote above says if the population stays at current levels and greenhouse gasses are curbed human waste heat will ultimately be a problem.
 
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bob012345 said:
Asimov seems to be saying ... The quote above says
Right. That's why it's always good to check the original source.
 
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anorlunda said:
Right. That's why it's always good to check the original source.
Thanks for putting them up! Azimov is always an entertaining read. I keep one of his books in the car if I'm stuck somewhere.
 

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