Self-Contained Models of Big Bang: Explained for Laymen

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The discussion revolves around the search for self-contained models of the Big Bang that can serve as comprehensive explanations for the origins of the universe. Participants explore various theoretical frameworks, their implications, and the challenges associated with them, focusing on both conceptual and technical aspects.

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  • One participant inquires about self-contained models of the Big Bang that are considered leading explanations among cosmologists.
  • Another participant clarifies that commonly discussed models for the early universe include cosmic inflation and quantum gravity bounce.
  • A further definition of "self-contained" is provided, suggesting models that inherently explain their own existence without external references, such as a multiverse or an infinitesimal point that expands into time.
  • Several models are proposed as possibilities, including the string theory landscape, spontaneous creation of expanding universes by Sean Carroll and Jennifer Chen, loop quantum gravity's bounce mechanism, and the ekpyrotic universe involving colliding branes.
  • It is noted that there is currently no consensus on which models are more likely, and evidence to support any of these ideas is lacking.

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Participants express differing views on what constitutes a self-contained model and the viability of various theoretical frameworks. There is no consensus on which models are leading or more likely to be correct.

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The discussion highlights the speculative nature of the proposed models and the absence of definitive evidence to support any particular framework. Limitations in current understanding and the challenges of gathering evidence for these theories are acknowledged.

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Hi,

Are there any self contained models of the BB that are "front-runners" as explanations for the big bang? I understand that all models have some problems with them, but which models are currently taken most seriously among working cosmologists, and are there explanations of those models for the layman?

Googling this stuff tends to lead me to explanations that are too vague, or too watered down, and usually don't contain the names of any specific models or have any kind of references. I'm hoping to get pointed in the right direction here to start reading up on this.

Thanks.
 
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What do you mean by "self-contained"?

The most commonly worked-on models for the very early universe are based upon cosmic inflation or a quantum gravity bounce.
 
What I mean by self-contained is that it is THE answer to our origins. In other words, it creates itself or exists necessarily and doesn't require further explanation outside of itself. Examples of this could be a multiverse with infinite regression, or an infinitesimal point that has no beginning, but then time began when it started expanding due to gravity.
 
There aren't any leading models for that. There are some, but there's just no way to know which models are more likely.

A few of them, off the top of my head:

1. The string theory landscape. The picture here is that the universe has a huge number of possible states, and is always fluctuating. Every once in a while a fluctuation creates an inflating region which leads to a sort of pocket universe with observers in it like ourselves.
2. Sean Carroll and Jennifer Chen proposed a relatively simple model for spontaneous creation of expanding universes which doesn't depend upon any particular high-energy physics (technical paper: http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0410270, popular talk on the model: ).
3. In loop quantum gravity (a currently-speculative model of quantum gravity), it looks like a collapsing universe can "bounce" to create an expanding universe like the one we observe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bounce
4. The ekpyrotic universe suggests that if two string theory branes collide, they can produce a universe like the one we observe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bounce

We currently don't have the evidence to suggest which (if any) of these ideas are correct. There are certainly other ideas that I don't recall right now (or never knew about). Maybe one day we'll have the evidence to start selecting between these ideas, but it's not easy to collect, sadly.
 

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