Self studying little Spivak's, stuck on problem 1-6

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The discussion revolves around problem 1-6 from Michael Spivak's "Calculus on Manifolds," which requires proving that the absolute value of the integral of the product of two integrable functions, f and g, satisfies the inequality |\int_a^b fg | ≤ (\int_a^b f^2)^{1/2}(\int_a^b g^2)^{1/2}. The key technical detail addressed is the uniqueness of the parameter λ in the quadratic expression derived from the integral. The participants concluded that the quadratic function must have a unique root to maintain the inequality, as having two distinct roots would contradict the condition of the function being always positive.

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In an effort to keep me from spending all summer lying on the couch, I recently started reading Michael Spivak's Calculus on Manifolds; while working on problem 1-6 I got stuck on a technical detail and I was wondering if anyone could provide a little insight.

Problem 1-6 says:
Let f and g be integrable functions on [a,b].
Prove that |\int_a^b fg | \leq (\int_a^b f^2)^{1/2}(\int_a^b g^2)^{1/2}.
He suggests that you treat the cases 0=\int_a^b (f-\lambda g)^2 for some \lambda \in R and 0 \lt \int_a^b (f-\lambda g)^2 for all \lambda separately.
My question is: how do I know the \lambda is unique?
Considering the two cases given above I got a cuadratic expression in \lambda whose discriminant gave me the strict inequality when 0 \lt \int_a^b (f-\lambda g)^2 for all \lambda (since there are no real roots of the equation), but in order to conclude that [\tex] |\int_a^b fg | \leq (\int_a^b f^2)^{1/2}(\int_a^b g^2)^{1/2} [/tex] I am forced to assume that the discriminant of the equation is equal to zero (otherwise I get |\int_a^b fg | \geq (\int_a^b f^2)^{1/2}(\int_a^b g^2)^{1/2}, which is obviously wrong), meaning that there is only one root of the equation, or equivalently that the lambda that satisfies 0=\int_a^b (f-\lambda g)^2 is unique, fact that I feel must be proven, not assumed).

How do I know said lambda is unique? Keep in mind that since f and g are integrable (but may not be continuous) one cannot assume that 0=\int_a^b (f)^2 implies f=0.
 
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Hi SrEstroncio! :smile:

Let's first consider an arbitrary quadratic function. Take

ax^2+bx+c

Now, if this equation has two distinct roots, then the equation must become negative somewhere (either in between the roots or outside the roots). So we know that

ax^2+bx+c<0

for some x. So the only way that this function is always greater than zero is that the root is unique.

Now, you have a quadratic function in \lambda:

\int_a^b(f-\lambda g)^2

and you know that this function is always greater than zero. The only way to accomplish this is if the function has only 1 or no distinct real roots. So this is why the lambda is unique.
 
micromass said:
Hi SrEstroncio! :smile:

Let's first consider an arbitrary quadratic function. Take

ax^2+bx+c

Now, if this equation has two distinct roots, then the equation must become negative somewhere (either in between the roots or outside the roots). So we know that

ax^2+bx+c<0

for some x. So the only way that this function is always greater than zero is that the root is unique.

Now, you have a quadratic function in \lambda:

\int_a^b(f-\lambda g)^2

and you know that this function is always greater than zero. The only way to accomplish this is if the function has only 1 or no distinct real roots. So this is why the lambda is unique.

ok ok ok I get it now, thank you very much ;D
 

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